Id like to discuss casino whoring on bwin here and I hope many skilled casino whores will join this discussion.
- bwin let you do 100% WR on blackjack
- software should be boss media and most likely 6 deck blackjack, stand on soft 17, peeks (US), doubles on everything, splitting etc... casino edge should be around 0,41 % by what I read on another site (name removed)
- bonuses are CASHABLE
-max deposit is 400 EURO
-bonus is 50%
-there are two standalone bonus offers, one for instant play and one for download casino. Instant has 40x bonus WR and Download has 20x bonus+deposit, which is little worse but still kicking-ass advance for you.
-I checked like 40 online casino and all have sh***y rules, either no blackjack, blackjack WR 10% only, no cashable etc... This is the only casino with good rules.
My math (as casino edge is used 0,5 for easier counts, so it should be even better in real) :
deposit 400 on instant -> get 200 free.
you got 600 . Now 200x40 is 8000. 8000x0,995 = 7960 , so after playing 8000 euros you should lose around 40. So you have 600-40 = 560 EURO
160 euro profit average
deposit 400 on download -> get 200 free
you got 600, now 600x20 is 12000. 12000x0,995 = 11940, so after playing 12000 euros you should lose around 60, So you have 600-60 = 540 EURO.
140 euro profit average
160+140 euro= 300 EURO profit
Now I did some more math to check what are the chances I could possibly end with less money than the deposit, or lose half or even all money.
I used this page http://faculty.vassar.edu/lowry/binomialX.html
now if I do max deposit on instant casino, I put 8000 as "n" as "k" I get 3800 (if I win 3800 out of 8000 I wouldnt win or lose anything) and as "p" 50/101 , thats roughly the casino edge.
Now one of the results is for "P: 3800 or more out of 8000" and its 0.999842 , so on 99,98% you will end with more cash than your deposit. Of course you play only with 600 euros and not 8000 so its not exact because this counts even the possibility of losing 1000 euros in a row and then winning it back, but I dont think it should change it a lot.
If I change "k" to 3900 it says that its 91% chance you will profit 100 or more euro.
Thats the theory. Now in real world I put 120 euros there, got the 50% bonus and after playing the WR I am on lame 75 euro, so I lost almost half of my deposit. Of course the chances are little worse if I only deposit 120 euro and not 400, but still should be around 99% ... I gotta admit I played few times with 2 or 3 euros and for a long time played 3 1euro hands at a time, but still.... WTF ? Am I just a huge, really huge unlucker or what ?
We played blackjack at my friend´s house before on bwin on his account and this way he made 30 euro to 100 euro. Which is a lot more than it should be, but yeah he was lucky in the beggining and then used 5euros bets so its more variable...
anyway, what do you think about it ? Am I a big unlucker and I lost money on almost sure money maker ? I just got f**ing 16 against dealer 10 all the time or I got awesome 11 against lame 6 so I double and got A or 2 and dealer ends on 20
I only lose that on the instant casino section, I still can get the money in the download section and get around 35% profit from it.... at least it should be like that if my math is right and I wont be mega unlucky.
Comment, try it, discuss it here.
(my tip : try to wager few euros on some other games, few cents on slots, play an euro on poker... I dont know if bwin somehow checks it, but its better to not have 100% blackjack gameplay )
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