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        Any bonus under 100% and requires a B+D X wagering is a rip off? Example I deposit $100 get 25% (2nd deposit bonus) and have to wager $100+$25 X 20?

        I can see if its was greater than 100% or if it was just X Bonus. But to wager my greater deposit amount more times then the bonus its self???
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        If my calculation is right, from casino's perspective, if you play a slot that for example have a house edge of 4% (which I think is roughly average house edge for online slots of major providers), casinos expect you too lose 4% for every 1x you wager, or in your case $5. After wagering 20x, in "ideal" circumstances you will lose $100 from deposit+bonus, or $75 from your deposit.

        On a same example but with 100% bonus, you will lose $160 from deposit+bonus or $60 from your deposit.

        In both cases, expected loss is greater than bonus amount, and also its greater than just playing straight deposit.

        Advantage of taking any bonus is more play time, thus more chance for a big win, but those bonuses of only 25% do not really give significantly more playtime, so they are not quite appealing to me.
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          I don't see why you have to wager your deposit any times on any casino.  That doesn't make sense to me at all and I don't understand why anyone would take a deposit bonus where the deposit has to be wagered as well.  It just seems very wrong to me.
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                      I pretty much quit using deposit bonuses a long time ago.  (IMO)  the WR  are usually too hard for me to reach unless I get super lucky quickly and not only that,  to me it seems to water down your winnings
          if you are doing good as much of the proceeds have to go to the WR.
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          I agree... I usually play table games as well as slots. So something the bonus does come in handy if its a good bonus, and it has to be cashable. Why people flock to Club World bonuses are beyond me. They are the worst ones in my book. Because they are non Cashable. I agree with you also blueday, It makes no sense to even have to wager your deposit. But USA casinos does this. Its criminal if you ask me.
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          Yeah I just think its stupid that you have to wager your own money. Like it's not enough to wager the bonus.
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          Platinum Reels sent me an offer which pissed me off. They wanted $100 deposit for 30% bonus X 30 wagering of D+B. WOW SMH
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          LOL there were two occasions that I take bonuses. Either I want to enjoy the games without really hoping to win much or big, or when I deposit 10$ at inetbet. For some reason I can easily wager there. 
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          I like Inetbet because they do have 100% slot bonus on a regular basis. But I don't deposit there because of lack of support and rudeness. Also their don't offer table games bonuses. I like to play table as well as slots.
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          Any casino that does things like that with deposits and bonuses need to be avoided (IMO) or maybe deposit without the bonus. I saw where a player was accused of cheating when he won (which to me is ridiculous) so i guess casinos can find a way to not pay even if you do a straight deposit. Finding a good casino that you like and sticking with them seems to be the best bet.
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          Im really just tired of the same ol damn softwares. I wished I could play PLAYTECH or MG.
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          I have to agree that their support team just takes forever. The good about them that I always got the payout within 24hours.
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          chocolateman wrote:

          Any bonus under 100% and requires a B+D X wagering is a rip off? Example I deposit $100 get 25% (2nd deposit bonus) and have to wager $100+$25 X 20?

          I can see if its was greater than 100% or if it was just X Bonus. But to wager my greater deposit amount more times then the bonus its self???


          Often I think some casinos use this way of describing the bonus to try and make it appear that the wagering requirement is lower than it really is - you know, 20xD+B sounds lower than 40xB, for example. I would usually always convert it back to just x Bonus when assessing whether to take an offer, in your example above, you are being asked to wager the bonus x100, which doesn't seem like a good deal to me. So yes, I'd say its often a rip off!
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                          I think you're better off taking your chances with a straight up deposit--no bonus attached.    I like to  be able to switch between the games and hate having restrictions on them.  I hate having a slots only bonus  and not be able to play a progressive slot for example.    And  Wscalley,  that's just far too much math ....LMAO   Chocolateman,  I really miss MG too.  Hope they come back to the US  soon.
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          Yeah just better to go in without their fricken bonus!!!

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