Do Casino Regulators Actually Do Anything?

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        Hi all,

        A question and maybe a debate we could get going.

        I recently read some news relating to some cases that basically got dismissed by the gambling regulator companys a few days ago, and it got me thinking do they even care, do they even do anything.

        I mean 1 in question, 1 of the employess of the said regulators even said bad words about the actual player that brought the case to light too.

        And that is not very professional is it.

        Do casinos just get free reign on the internet?

        Is this even right - it seriously is not right or fair

        List of some of the companys so people get an idea who and what we are talking about.

        The Gambling Commission
        Government of Gibraltar
        Malta
        Aldernay
        Curaco

        And many others.

        I mean if a customer had a valid case, shouldn't they make every effort to make sure that it gets properly investigated, and then take appropriate action, i mean in one of the cases i read about, this said person actually did get it fully investigated and was 100% proven, yet the regulators just came back and said they didn't care basically and 1 of them was nasty to the person that did bring it too light, i mean where is the actual regulation if none of them do anything and care for the customers of these casinos that they are supposed to regulate???

        Just some points that can maybe get this debate started if anyone wants too.

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        You said the magic word DreamRJ, "valid" claim. If regulators weren't effective there would be chaos.

        Regulators ensure that online gambling is licensed, legal and fair in its jurisdiction. They do not step in to help players get paid etc. An example of a valid complaint to make to the regulator would be regarding underage players accessing sites or ensuring that the online casino had procedures in place to deal with disputes and followed them when ruling on a player complaint as it's a requirement for licensing.

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        Feelin froggy wrote:

        You said the magic word DreamRJ, "valid" claim. If regulators weren't effective there would be chaos.

        Regulators ensure that online gambling is licensed, legal and fair in its jurisdiction. They do not step in to help players get paid etc. An example of a valid complaint to make to the regulator would be regarding underage players accessing sites or ensuring that the online casino had procedures in place to deal with disputes and followed them when ruling on a player complaint as it's a requirement for licensing.




        Yes i know what they are there for

        But for example in 1 of the cases i read about. a player found some problems with 2 of the games on a online casino, and it got proven, but then after weeks and months, even the casinos pulled the games in question offline too.

        But the regulators just brushed it under the carpet and 1 of the employess went onto bash the actual player that brought it to light in the first place.
        And the regulators basically said that they only do the licenses and it is down to each casino to self regulate themselves as in regards to the actual games they put onto there casino sites.

        I mean i dont get it, this would basically give casinos power to basically say your word against ours and so on, and then it is also about casinos terms and conditions, i think even these get out of control too, and i also think terms and conditions should be regulated too.

        In my eyes, casinos online seem to think and are in the mindset that anything goes and if they state it in there terms and conditions then they basically say its in terms and so on,

        I mean a lot of online casinos have ludicrous terms sometimes that make the casino have even more advantage over there players.

        So they are allowed to self regulate and get away with things in house just because it is in the terms and the regulators that gave the licenses say its down to each individual casino, omg, give me strength.

        it is just now making me question now, how do we know 100% that slots online are not fixed at all

        it makes me question if i should even continue to play online casinos at all.

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        no more replys ??
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        so i take it no one wants to discuss further about this subject matter
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        I also do trust in them as they have proved to be really instrumental
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                    I think things are different in Europe vs. America  because over here it's still kind of a gray area.  I mean our government can't even decide if it's legal for us.  We're kind of in limbo over here I mean if we have problems with a site we have very little recourse to get our issue resolved.    The banks (IMO) are sure as Hell not going to help us,  legally we don't even know where we stand.  We have to trust an unseen person who is most likely thousands of miles away and who may or may not be working in our best interest.    I'm lucky in that I found out which sites I believe to be trustworthy and thankfully have never had to use a  rep.  or complain to management.    I think more regulation in this is a good idea.
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        yeah i understand the situation in the usa, but it looks like the US is starting to open up state by state again and neteller too.

        And yes more regulation is needed, but it is easy to say this, i feel at the moment we just dont know if online casinos, even though a lot of them are very big well known names are actually fair when it comes to the actual games but hey, that is the whole thing about gambling, we will always think the games are unfair even before the online world of gambling when we had to get our fix for real in real life slot machines we thought they was fixed too haha
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                Well I wish they would hurry up,  it seems New Jersey is apparently Neteller friendly,  I'm not so sure about Florida.  It's a great concept but I think the rules should apply nationwide.  This whole process gets so politicized that  states want to decide the rules individually;  elections are even determined in a large part by how the candidates feel on the subject.  Aaargggh.... RJ don't get me started. 
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        ok bongo hahaha , i wont get you started, im the same when it gets into politics of things i like to debate and debate till the sun dont shine
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                    Tell you what RJ,  if I ever make it over to England,  we can solve the world's problems over a pint, deal?
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        bongo wrote:

                    Tell you what RJ,  if I ever make it over to England,  we can solve the world's problems over a pint, deal?


        lol yeah sure but one small problem i dont drink hahaha, but i suppose i can have coke or something and we can come up with a plan to fix the world lmao
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        I think this is an important topic that definitely needs more attention and discussion, especially given the many cheating/financial scandals that have rocked the online gaming world. In poker, especially, the Absolute/UltimateBet and FullTilt cases were ones in which the gambling legislative body was either directly tied to the shenanigans involved (Kahnawake) or displayed sheer negligence in its oversight duties i.e. Alderney. More recently, the Purple Lounge fiasco showed how pitiful Malta's LGA is in protecting player's funds. Other licensing jurisdictions exist only to issue gaming licences and collect the associated fees; gambling operators are basically left alone to do what they like and players to fend for themselves.

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