I read it somewhere that Grand Prive changed software to Betonsoft so that eCOGRA couldnt do the re-audit on them because grand prive did not want to pay their affiliates. Affiliates brought players to their business, but look what GP did to them, so think about what they can do to us (players). If you like the games from betonsoft software, I recommend you play with lucky creek, grand eagle group. I heard some players won from their free chips, please tell us how it goes. I like some of their games, but they wont get my deposits yet. I'll be watching them, lol, and play with freebies.
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Well so far, am not impressed with there new software. I cashed out at Jupiter Club on Friday around 8 PM. Here it is Tuesday morning at 2 AM, way beyond the 48 hour period, and my withdrawal is still reversible. According to there site the withdrawal should only be reversible for the first 48 hours. Seems like a catch 22 doesn't it? Well anyways I got told that finance was out on Monday because it was a holiday and I should see sort of results later on today. We'll see.
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I just called support and asked them about their license suspension. They said it was not suspended, that it is just due to the change over. Do I believe them? I don't know. Will I deposit? NO WAY! I like the betonsoft platform, but I think I'll stick to Grand Eagle and that group.
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I just called support and asked them about their license suspension. They said it was not suspended, that it is just due to the change over. Do I believe them? I don't know. Will I deposit? NO WAY! I like the betonsoft platform, but I think I'll stick to Grand Eagle and that group.
No - don't believe them. You can read it for yourself here (old link removed)
As long as everyone is aware of the position, you can make an informed decision as to whether to deposit or not.
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I believe them. As far as I know, the Kahnawake Gaming Commission only licenses Microgaming casinos; I've never known of them to license any other software (in 10 yrs of playing). I'm sure their announcement to suspend/cancel their license was in response to the move and intended to do damage.
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Its up to the individual to determine whether or not you will deposit there. With that said, I myself, would not, and that is because of a number of negative things that are said about them, not just the licensing. Although, thats a major reason not to. I've been reading alot of things about them, and not once have I stumbled upon anything remotely positive, from players and affilates.
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I believe them. As far as I know, the Kahnawake Gaming Commission only licenses Microgaming casinos; I've never known of them to license any other software (in 10 yrs of playing). I'm sure their announcement to suspend/cancel their license was in response to the move and intended to do damage.
Possibly LhasaLover. It seems to be working.
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GRAND PRIVE LICENSE SUSPENDED
4/8/10 - The Grand Prive online casino group's woes seem to keep mounting. Following a bitter two year war with disgruntled affiliates and an abrupt move over the holiday weekend to a new software provider the beleaguered casino group has now had its Kahnawake licence suspended.
In an advisory notice dated April 6th, the Kahnawake Gaming Commission advises:
"The Kahnawake Gaming Commission advises that it has suspended the Client Provider Authorization ("CPA") held by Maricass International Holdings Inc. ("Maricass"). The suspension is effective immediately and affects the following sites (sometimes known as the "Grand Prive group"):
www.bellavegas.com
www.bigdollar.com
www.casinograndbay.com
www.fortunejunction.com
www.grandbaycasino.com
www.jackpotwheel.com
www.jupiterclub.com
www.kasinograndbay.com
www.lakepalace.com
www.roadhousereels.com
The Commission has taken this action due to Maricass' failure to file a Material Change Report, advising the Commission that it had recently changed software suppliers. While its CPA is under suspension, Maricass is not authorized to operate any of the aforementioned sites (or any other sites under its control) from Kahnawake and the Commission is not responsible for these sites should they continue to operate from another jurisdiction.
In the event Maricass does not take immediate steps to remedy its failure to file a Material Change Report and obtain the Commission's approval for its new software, its CPA will be revoked.
For further information, please contact the Kahnawake Gaming Commission at info@gamingcommission.ca."
The advisory, which can be viewed at: http://www.gamingcommission.ca/news/pr04072010a.pdf is signed by Murray Marshall, general counsel of the KGC.
Grand Prive has switched to the BetonSoft software, allegedly without notifying the KGC, former supplier Microgaming or standards and player protection eCOGRA of its intention to do so. It is believed that the group is now operating its brands with the prefix 'bet.' under a Netherlands Antilles licence. -
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I believe them. As far as I know, the Kahnawake Gaming Commission only licenses Microgaming casinos; I've never known of them to license any other software (in 10 yrs of playing). I'm sure their announcement to suspend/cancel their license was in response to the move and intended to do damage.
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Only time will tell, of course, but I don't see it as anything other than a normal business decision. We've seen 2 Top Games change to Rival in the last month, and other casinos change software not infrequently, so.... BetonSoft is HOT!!
The casino were being investigated because they neglected to pay their affiliates/the players. Now that they have moved, they can no longer be investigated.
So I would say it's not a normal business decision.
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I haven't played at these casinos for years now, before the reported problems started. They used to be very, very good casinos, but I can't say from personal experience how they've been in the last 2-3 yrs. Wasn't there another player here somewhere that said he's cashed out from them in the last few months, tho? I thought I saw that in one of these threads about the Grand Prives.
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I haven't played at these casinos for years now, before the reported problems started. They used to be very, very good casinos, but I can't say from personal experience how they've been in the last 2-3 yrs. Wasn't there another player here somewhere that said he's cashed out from them in the last few months, tho? I thought I saw that in one of these threads about the Grand Prives.
At any rate, I'm with you guys - I'm going to sit back & watch to see how this all plays out, too.
I cashed out THOUSANDS from Lake Palace over the years; however, I am SO FIRED UP by what they just pulled w/ the switch 2 crappy gaming platform. I am not surprised that their license was pulled, based on the under-handed way they went about the switch. They won't get a dime from me.
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