Please share: The ODD/ FRUSTRATING patterns you notice when online gaming

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        I don't believe land based casinos cheat.  They don't have to.  The math, probability and the weakness of human nature gives the house a nice edge.

        Same thing with online casinos.  I don't think (the good ones) cheat, though I am convinced they use highly sophisticated software that gives them an additional edge.

        But...here are the things that make me wonder....hmmmmm. 

        1.  When playing off a bonus, the last 200-300 of play through is a disaster that chews down my bankroll.

        2.  Blackjack.  Online gaming, I have lost 10-15 hands in a row.  NEVER come close to that loss rate at land based casinos.

        3.  Slots.  WAY more near misses than land based!  And it seems just when the wheels are going to land in a favorable way, the screen "blinks" and the wheels land UNfavorably. 

        Now, what have YOU noticed that makes you go "Hmmmmm....?"
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        Thats one of the reasons i NEVER use bonus i can never do the playthroughs always end up loosing when done 50-70% of it.

        For blackjack ive giving up playing the dealer gets BJ/21 all the time when u got 19/20 in your hands its able to pull it off with 4-5cards almost everytime.

        For slots land based here (denmark) when i hit even the lowest payout it gives me 100% pay back on the bid nothing lost, but for online ive noticed some patterns also with the freespins getting close you can on some slots 99% see if the last symbol gonna land on 5th wheel by the symbols showing when the 4th stops rolling, and on most slots if u see the freespin symbol on 5th as soon 4th stops u know 110% if wont come none real supprise atleast this is what ive noticed on microgaming.
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        Here is what i think the rules are with online casinos:

        1. Never ever let a player win off a free chip. Once in a blue moon throw in a winner for show!.

        2. When redeeming player points never ever let the player win off it. Once in a blue moon throw in a winner for show!

        3. When using a deposit bonus always tease the player by starting out with a bang and right when it gets close to making the playthrough let the machine die.

        4. On rare occasions allow the player to make the playthrough. As much as it pains us we realize that by doing it they will come back again and again.

        5. Let the player make the playthrough and give them a sense of false hope. After we deduct the bonus from the winnings, there is not quite enough for the player to cashout because the min cashout is $50.

        6. Allow the player lots of mini wins on certain slots. But never let that win go over a certain amount. It is too risky and the player could possibly cashout.

        7. When a player is making min. or lower coin value bets let the player win. It will make the player up the ante and then thats when the machine will die.

        9. Bring the player down to almost zero in their balance, then give them a fairly nice hit but not enough to cashout. Do this once or on occasion several times. This will make the player think the machine is coming around and they will make another deposit.

        10. On the rare occasion we allow the player to win big.....let there be a longggggg dry spell before they win again.

        11. If a player decides to reverse the withdrawal, make sure we get every single cent of that winnings back.

        12. Give the player lots of near misses. So close yet so far. This give the player an adrenaline rush and they will make another deposit.

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        OMFG!!!  You're inside my head Lips.  I can relate to everything you just said.  Anybody else?
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        I agree Lips..Right on the money!


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        I completely agree.  You know how many times when I first deposit with a casino I win and so I'll become a customer of theirs and never again do I win. 
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        Huhm, to simply put it; the online casinos are ODD/FRUSTRATING period!!!!
        I don't get that feeling at my land based casinos!
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        Lips....I agree with your list 100%  One week I won about $8000.  But, had ZERO, I mean ZERO, luck for weeks after that.

        Agreed....I have never won on a free chip or comp money.  Not a dime.

        And the near misses are CLEARLY software-planned!  As I wrote before, near-misses make the brain want to KEEP GOING!  In fact, one casino where I once had a $5000 hit on slots now keeps missing that same winning combo by one space! 

        Oh yeah!  Every redeposit I have ever made was lost.  Every one!

        So, I don't think the online casinos cheat, in a classical sense.  But, their software clearly adjusts/reacts to predictable human behavior.
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        Totally "on the money" there Lips.

        Casinos are designed to take our money whichever way you look at it.  Their income is far more than any payouts they might make by a very long chalk and that's how they can issue their accounts and show millions of $$$ in profits.

        They can say that their advertising was "great" which attracted more players, or that their "bonuses" were the best which again attracted more players but at the end of the day, your list is everything they need to keep our dough.

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        I live 20 mins from Foxwoods/MGM Grand in CT.  I like online casinos becuz of the convenience of playing without driving.  BUT - I have not won at all!  I review the casinos that appear in the top 10 here and deposit and play but never win.  I get a tease now and then but never make the playthru.  I like 9 line triple diamonds at Foxwoods and I hit the triple and sevens about 40% of the time - those are GREAT odds.  As for online - my patience is wearing extremely thin with them
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        Hiya cjd,

        I understand your frustration! Maybe switch it up and don't always take the deposit bonus, then you don't have to worry about the playthru.

        I thinking winning comes in streaks. The problem is the streaks can be far and in between.

        I wish you luck and hope you come back soon and say........."i did it....i hit a big one"!!

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        Once i was told.. just say for instance you play 20 bucks in a poker machine and hit a fullhouse for 40 quarters.. thats 10 bucks and half your money back and is conscidered wins.. so if you are playing and hit straights, fullhouses, even a bunch of pairs, within that 20 you put in.. this is how they can prove the machines aren't tight or fixed... You hit 2 fullhouses thats your money back...even though you didn't cashout, this was something being explained to me about payback percentages, i hope you understand what i mean...
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        I think you're right on, Lips.  If only there were some way to turn the tables....
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        lipstick_xoxos wrote:

        Here is what i think the rules are with online casinos:

        1. Never ever let a player win off a free chip. Once in a blue moon throw in a winner for show!.

        2. When redeeming player points never ever let the player win off it. Once in a blue moon throw in a winner for show!

        3. When using a deposit bonus always tease the player by starting out with a bang and right when it gets close to making the playthrough let the machine die.

        4. On rare occasions allow the player to make the playthrough. As much as it pains us we realize that by doing it they will come back again and again.

        5. Let the player make the playthrough and give them a sense of false hope. After we deduct the bonus from the winnings, there is not quite enough for the player to cashout because the min cashout is $50.

        6. Allow the player lots of mini wins on certain slots. But never let that win go over a certain amount. It is too risky and the player could possibly cashout.

        7. When a player is making min. or lower coin value bets let the player win. It will make the player up the ante and then thats when the machine will die.

        9. Bring the player down to almost zero in their balance, then give them a fairly nice hit but not enough to cashout. Do this once or on occasion several times. This will make the player think the machine is coming around and they will make another deposit.

        10. On the rare occasion we allow the player to win big.....let there be a longggggg dry spell before they win again.

        11. If a player decides to reverse the withdrawal, make sure we get every single cent of that winnings back.

        12. Give the player lots of near misses. So close yet so far. This give the player an adrenaline rush and they will make another deposit.




        all of this, and I believe it 100%

        the funny thing is...we all still keep depositing..what does that say about us



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        Lips....your list DOES make us wonder...hmmmm.

        Though, the whole realm of probability makes your list a reality.  But, I can't believing that online casinos use "flirting software" that entices bets more so than land based casinos.

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