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Poll - Have you ever tried your own PROVEN SYSTEM?

  • Yes and it's working
    7.69% (1)
  • No and I won't
    30.77% (4)
  • Yes and I failed
    0.00% (0)
  • No but I will consider it
    23.08% (3)
  • I have no gambling problem
    38.46% (5)
Total Members Voted: 13
  • I was told to stop by here by one of your members to post my started topic from another forum.
    I won't really be posting much on here as I am really busy with many things.
    I make a few posts on another forum which I assume I can not mention here but it's enough for me.
    I am not selling anything. I am not promoting anything. I am just trying to show how my life, a normal family man has lived, and is planning to change.

    Have a great day....


    Here is the post pasted from the other forum...........




    PROVEN SYSTEM: A method for a life long gambler to maintain control of his addiction. A process to establish rules to protect him from inevitable disaster. A method to understand that he is human and has made many mistakes and try to understand that he is capable of reversing the history of brain conditioning that has led to his life long failure with gaming. A process which involves discipline of the brain, management of time and thought control. A method to enjoy a hobby that can be very rewarding. A way appreciate life. A way to not make gambling the sole thought of the day. A way to finally be happy.

    PROVEN SYSTEM is not for everyone. It was created by JOHNNYGOTTHEBONE (aka THE BRAIN) who has spent his life gambling everything he owned at any given moment. I have admitted that I have an illness. The illness of compulsive gambling. An illness that many people suffer from. Most don't even know it. Many modules of PROVEN SYSTEM are common sense to many people. All put together, it is a program to help a person like Me not only control his gaming, but to enjoy it as well.

    In no way is the PROVEN SYSTEM a way to make money. That is a reward based on actual performance and luck. It is impossible to have a system to predict the outcome of a 5 reel online slot machine. If you are thinking about commencing this PROVEN SYSTEM To get rich, don't bother. In no way is there a system in place to give you an advantage over online gaming on 5 reel slot machines. It doesn't exist, it is random.


    PROVEN SYSTEM Is broken down is several modules. Each module is important and must be followed. Failure to respect each module will result in a non successful experience. A tedious process that needs to be respected.


    I have personally started since September 2014. Although I have not been completely solid, I have maintained control.

    The following are the ten MODULES of the long awaited PROVEN SYSTEM....subject to be modified. PART II of PROVEN SYSTEM can only be introduce after one year of success.

    1:PREPARATION- ability to accept that you have an illness and can not control your gambling. Once you have accepted the fact that you can not stop gambling, you must try everything available to quit. Quitting would be the best thing for you. If it is unsuccessful, continuing to gamble will lead to failure. Once you have realized that it is physically impossible to stop gambling, then you need to prepare yourself for many obstacles. Adopting this PROVEN SYSTEM may help you control your losses as well as your life. You need to prepare mentally and physically. There is so much temptation everywhere. It is so easy to gamble these days. From lotto tickets to online Roulette. Prepare to give up almost everything and concentrate only on 5 reel online slot machines. Playing only an IPHONE is much easier.

    2:-PLAN- prepare, on paper how you want to approach your gaming. This is only valid for people who want to play only on online slots. Absolutely nothing else. Live or online. You must not be able to game anywhere. Many gambling establishments will respect you for this. You will need to exclude yourself from every online casino except four. Every local casino and other places offering gambling. You must not be able to play anywhere but four hand picked casinos. It's important. It is a long process. But it has to be done. 6 months minimum exclusion, if possible, longer. You need to do this. Your brain will thank you in the long term. Pick four casinos. NT/MG preferred. All four casinos will need a permanent deposit limit set by you. Amount is what you can afford. Never to be changed. It is important to select an amount that you are comfortable losing. Consider the amount a loss even before you deposit. Make sure casino is emailed and respects PERMANENT limit. Most casinos will. If not, exclude yourself immediately and find another.

    3:GOAL- is to play on four casinos and not be able to play anywhere else. To play without risking everything that You have. To enjoy the experience. To make sure You are protected in every way. To finally look in the mirror and say I am in control. Not to cry yourself to sleep over your losses. To be strong and confident in everyday life. To hold your head up high and say I did it. I am in control for the first time in my life. To understand that you did it. All by yourself. To be proud you are winning the fight against your illness.

    4:UNDERSTAND- online casinos are there to take your money. They don't know you. They only know that you are giving them money. The more you play, the more will lose. Casinos are not your friend. They want your money. Honest or not, that's what they want. Understand that this is a business. A lucrative business than has a Multi billion dollar income. These casinos couldn't care less about you, your family and your well being. They want your money. When you have their money, don't care about them! Understand that it is your hard earned money being wagered.

    5:SMARTS- knowing what to play and when to play. Once you play less than ten games MG/NT only, somehow you may develop a feeling on when to walk away. All games are random. In time, with experience, anyone can feel a machine. Even if it's 20% accurate, it's better than 0. Do not play more than ten games. Limit yourself to low variance games after initial deposit. Starburst is probably a game that will never give you 100x your bet. But it will keep you playing for hours thus eating up wager requirement. It is impossible to suggest better games. Everyone has their own style. My style is different than yours. Play games you know well. games that eat wager requirement. games that have been good to you. games that you have developed a feeling because you constantly play them. Do not chase mega jackpots unless you have at least 6x your deposit in winnings. I personally rarely chase jackpots.

    6:CLIMB- object is to raise your initial deposit by not making large wagers. 1/100th-1/300th of your bank roll. When a higher balance is achieved, then you can raise the stakes. A cash out or different games are needed to be played. TS II/TWIN SPIN/BURNING DESIRE are excellent choices. When your balance reaches 6+ times your deposit, BDBA/IMMORTAL/DOA. High variance games may reward you. After all, you are technically playing with their money now. Do not play high variance games until you have at least 6 times your deposit. Depositing money and chasing a jackpot of 1000x your bet is not recommended.

    7:TERMS- make sure you have read every single word of the casino terms. Make sure that you have sent all your documents prior to depositing. Make sure that there is no hidden terms in the bonus. Many have cash out limits, game restrictions, wager amount etc... Terms must be read carefully. Coming to a forum like Ask Gamblers will be nothing less than educational. Many casinos have deplorable bonus terms. Understand them. Chat with the support and ask questions. Keep the chat.

    8:INVINCIBLE- when you win, you will want more. There is no doubt. Reverse withdrawal has been the hardest part. Reverse withdrawal needs to be controlled. If you make a withdrawal, make sure you can still play at another casino. Try and forget about your withdrawal. As long as you are playing elsewhere, the pending period is expiring. PROVEN SYSTEM is effective only when there are four casinos available. Make sure you have some money to play in one of them while withdrawing from another. Your brain will be less active with reversing if you are still playing. Very important.

    9:LESS- you need to play less games. Moving from original deposit upward is the hardest part of making any money with your hobby/gaming. Play certain games that history has shown you suit your style. STarburst/Mystic Dreams/Eagle wings are suited perfectly for My style. If you deposit 100 Dollars, getting to 1000 is much harder than getting from 1000-5000. Stay focused. Know when to walk away. Know when to stay. Only your style and experience can help you. Do not experiment in new games unless you are winning a good amount and just want to test a game. It is important to stick to the games you know.

    10-REWARD- if done right, you will be happy no matter what happens. If you lose on all for casinos, you are still a winner. If you win, then you are still a winner. Many people will ask why?
    The answer is that you have set a limit on your gaming. This limit can never be changed. You just Lost what your limit allowed you to lose. If your limit is 100per week, x 4 you Lost 400 Dollars. You can not lose any more. You can't play anywhere to lose it. Then ask yourself, how much did you lose in a week prior to starting to put deposit limits and exclusions on yourself. Confident that the amounts were much higher than your new limits, that can never be changed. Conditioning your brain to understand that you have just managed to avoid losing more than you can afford is a win on its own. You must get confirmation from all four casinos that they will never raise your deposit limit. Ever!

    JOHNNYGOTTHEBONE is officially working with PROVEN SYSTEM as of the beginning of September 2014. Although I have made a substantial profit in the last two months, I have convinced myself that at any given moment, I can lose it all. I must respect every module to succeed in the long term.

    A-I have excluded myself from well over 100 NT/MG casinos
    B-I have implemented a 250/week permanent deposit limit
    C-I have selected my four casinos...
    D-I understand that this is all for fun
    E-I will not ever feel invincible when winning
    F-I will never reverse withdrawal
    G-If I reach 1k on any casino, I will cash out without hesitation.
    H-I will take all bonuses offered and work on requirement.
    I-I will not play once all play is done for the week.
    J-There will be no more mistakes!

    Proud to announce the 4 casinos I have hand picked after playing more than 100 since May 2014, and why.....


    GO WILD casino.... Best paying casino ever. Excellent customer service. Fast paying. Easy to deposit. 25 loyalty Dollars reached 7k, 90 dollar belated bonus reached 20k, 100 reached 14k and many more. Simply the best paying casino. The machines are loose. The selection is MG only.

    CASINO LUCK .... Excellence in customer service, game selection second to no one. One deposit of 250 and reached well over 5000 and cashed out a bit less soon after. Quality. 5 star casino in every way. Ranked #1 almost everywhere. Cash outs are instantaneous and received within 48 hours.

    Jetbull casino... The lion of casinos. One 250 deposit turned into over 9000(reversed) Customer service responds to emails within one minute. Although I did not cash out, I read their terms about the 5000 limit and accept. The reviews are excellent on every forum.

    NEXT CASINO ... Sister casino of casino luck. Excellence in gaming and email correspondence is instant. A trusted casino without any negative reviews. One deposit of 250 into 8000+(reversed). Game selection second to no one. Quality product.

    Well this is it folks. For all who have communicated with me I look forward to hearing from you. Many of you are miserable. So was I prior to adopting PROVEN SYSTEM. Your stories are so saddening. If you really can't quit like you say, try and see if you can take control. You have nothing to lose. Only to gain. The people here are very kind. Do not be afraid to post on this site. Do not be afraid to open up your inner thoughts. There are people who might actually be able to help you get control.

    The person who is his 20's and sends me emails every other day about not wanting to go on anymore has stopped responding to my emails. If you read this, please email me. You know I am here.


    Gambling can be a serious addiction. If you feel like you can't stop or control your gambling, seek help wherever available. I see many people seeking help on this forum alone. There is help. I Used the forum to understand things that I did not understand before. Gaming should be fun. Gaming should be exciting. I always tried to win a million! Wow. How I have changed. I have to thank all the people here. In their own way, without trying, they have somehow managed to show me reality about online gaming hence gambling. I have no interest in live gaming what so ever. I have no interest in playing my life savings away I have no interest in being stupid. I just want to have fun.

    Personally, I am beyond conventional help. The only thing that will work for me is to control the fire inside. A raging flame that has haunted me for 25 years. I am confident in the PROVEN SYSTEM to protect me from danger. What works for me may and probably not work for you. Make your own PROVEN SYSTEM but do something. Thinking that it's too late to change and get better is the ultimate call for failure. Use every tool available to help yourself. No one can help you except you!


    Good luck to me and to you.




    Screen shots will follow.


    Here we go............


  • Mind as well give an update.

    I lost on all four casino. Very fast on GOWILD. Although I cashed out tens of thousands at go wild from minimal deposits, I decided to walk away. Hurt but I did it. The new UK made Go wild leave. Why? Very suspicious! Exclusion done earlier today. Ty for the winnings go wild. Screen shots posted on other forum.

    So now there are three until October when unibet or 32 red will be active for me again. I will pick one.


    PROVEN SYSTEM in full throttle. Gonna lay low until Monday. Final!

    I am in total control now. I won't play until Monday.

  • I hoe you're not trying to spam or anything. That's a good way to get yourself banned.

  • Not my style Homie

    Guess you never heard of me. Guess you never saw my screen shots.

    All good. I just came here to post a very important thread from another forum. Where I usually hang.

    Probably get banned one day, again. Lol. Who knows.

    I assume by your name you are a brother? Born in Philly myself. Left when young but still got some friends down there.

    Peace. No trouble from me here. Won't be staying around to much.

  • cool tongue laugh_out_loud


    Just to give y'all am idea of how I play/played. Yes I won. But the fire inside me was destroying me everyday!! The old saying sometimes when u win u lose is so real.

    Now, I am so in control it's so rewarding.

    Here are a few screenies. So many more posted on other forums.

    This is who I do to want to be anymore. 80 hours a week on my iphone! Money is not everything.



  • Here is another email from a person trying to change.......





    honestly feel so proud of myself right now. I have made almost all the right decisions and I feel overall a lot happier a person inside.

    Just wanted to say thanks for all your advice. I know many people consider your system crazy, but I have never felt that way - in fact, you are one of few people on earth who I can relate to most.
  • And another.

    Go go go and do it. I living proof.

    I haven't played anything and won't until Monday.


    FULL THROTTLE is effect!






    Here is another email. He was in bad shape.....




    I withdrew £500 from Video Slots. It is GBP which I try not to play with because somehow feels more expensive. I tried a few large bets like yours but Lost £150 in 10 minutes and that scared me.

    I have just applied another module of my system. Spend your winning! If I spend my winnings.

    Now I have paid bills and bought an iPad and still have more than I started with. Even if I lose the rest I get to look forward to the iPad arriving in the mail.

    If I did not try to create a system I would have deposited it all back and Lost, the system helps force you to make better choices. Even though I break some rules, I am making more effort to be responsible. That is actually a better feeling than winning itself

  •               What is this?  I'm inclined to agree with Chocolateman.  Johnnygotthebone,  welcome to the forum
    but be warned against spamming.  That's  not accepted here.  Be careful.

  • Bongo... Please elaborate? What exactly is spamming?

    I'm not selling anything.
    I'm not asking for anything

    I am simply providing information based on years of being without control of an illness that has burned inside me. I have finally managed to take control.

    PROVEN SYSTEM should be really considered by anyone who has had a similar life like me.

    I am a family man, raised well, no drugs, no drinking and goto church with kids. Honest and respected in the community. I have a disease, an illness. Gambling. So many people suffer everyday day from this. Most don't even know it.

    I have finally put together a plan to try and at least control it. Maybe in time control it to the point of stopping. Who knows.

    If this is spamming, then I apologize. It was not my intention.


    Did I put the thread in the right place. If not, maybe it should be moved to the correct place where more people can see it. 100 views is low. This will probably be the hottest thread in a few months. I have received dozens of emails from people preparing their own PROVEN SYSTEM. Each must be unique.


    Taking control is the key to happiness.


    Later.

  • For those wondering where I hit the 16k immortal romance wild feature, it was on go wild in August.

    My balance was zero.... They have me 90 belated bonus from a deposit made earlier that day.

    I reached 20k.

    Now, that 20k is tax free for me, it's free money. My initial feeling was go an make 100k with it.

    So what did i do instead........... Nothing. It's still sitting in bank account.
    No interest in playing it. Total control----- that's results! For me.  If y'all knew what the old me would have done with that free money........ If you only knew!

    No more!


  • Not my style Homie

    Guess you never heard of me. Guess you never saw my screen shots.

    All good. I just came here to post a very important thread from another forum. Where I usually hang.

    Probably get banned one day, again. Lol. Who knows.

    I assume by your name you are a brother? Born in Philly myself. Left when young but still got some friends down there.

    Peace. No trouble from me here. Won't be staying around to much.


    Wtf kind of comment is that saying you assume he's a brother?  How does race get brought up?

    Mods please ban this guy.  His  racist ways should be enough.  This person  does  nothing but cause trouble at all these forums. He hijacks every part of every forum. 

    He has a serious gambling problem and keeps going to forums with his none sense and eventually gets banned.  He has nothing better to do than sit on the forums and make everyone's  life miserable. 

    Please do not allow him to turn this place into his personal playground. 

    If you need a reason to ban, do it for his racist ways above.

  •               What is this?  I'm inclined to agree with Chocolateman.  Johnnygotthebone,  welcome to the forum
    but be warned against spamming.  That's  not accepted here.  Be careful.


    Due to the beneficial content of the topic, editing his posts would be a better alternative to banning him.  Maybe you could edit the unintentional spam for his education on the definition of spam. 

    Pay attention to the edits of your posts, johhny boy!  Keep it clean and informative.

    Your idea is a little interesting to me..........thanks
  • Wtf kind of comment is that saying you assume he's a brother?  How does race get brought up?




    Uhmmmmmm????

    Look at the brothers name!


  • I hoe you're not trying to spam or anything. That's a good way to get yourself banned.





    Chocolateman i never knew you were a brother (eyeroll) . Thanks for letting us know that Johnnygotthebone. I hope johnnygetstheban. What exactly does being a brother have to do with any comments??? Where a person is from or their race should not effect their comments. My family is Dominican and i would never presume from someones profile that they are a particular race or know something. He could be from Dominican Republic who knows or cares. Really ignorant comment.
  • I just had to add  i really hope you meant hope and not hoe chocolateman  laugh_out_loud worn_out wink  whistle

  • Due to the beneficial content of the topic, editing his posts would be a better alternative to banning him.  Maybe you could edit the unintentional spam for his education on the definition of spam. 





    Sorry but info not understand this post?
    Isn't spam an unwanted email? Or posts sending people to a web site?
    Where did I spam? Sorry but I don't see where I am spamming?



    Back to this important thread........

    The fire burned inside me last night until 2:00am it was very hard for me. Although I am in total control I spent most part of my night reminiscing about the gambling days. It was hard for me to be happy. I have always said time is not a gamblers friend. Always. Time is passing so slow for me until MONDAY. I know I can do it. I am confident in PROVEN SYSTEM. I must respect every module.

    PROVEN SYSTEM is in FULL THROTTLE right now. Flying high in the sky. The turbulent times wil get better. I am not worried but it is tough. Today is another day. The days should be getting easier as the next deposit(Monday) is approaching. With time, hopefully the turbulence will be less and less but the fire inside which has been burning and burning is cashing delays.


    Things that made me not gamble yesterday night......

    Yes there is money in bank
    Yes I can source out a casino that is not excluded
    Yes I had time to play
    Yes I could afford to make a deposit
    Yes i would have loved playing
    Yes I would have enjoyed the adrenaline rush
    Yes i would not care if I lost a few hundred.
    Yes I had my iphone ready and it was so easy




    But........


    I did this instead and I am very happy.


    No I don't need to play today
    No i can wait until Monday. That was my deal
    No why would I just go open an account and throw my money there
    No I said no more.
    No I must respect myself and my word
    No I am better than giving into the fire
    No thanks to the raging fire. Not this time
    No I don't care if I hurt
    No to the thoughts, I control my own brain
    No thank you. Wait until Monday. That's it!!

    Basically I told the fire inside me to go F itself!

    Later

  • Chocolateman i never knew you were a brother (eyeroll) . Thanks for letting us know that Johnnygotthebone. I hope johnnygetstheban. What exactly does being a brother have to do with any comments??? Where a person is from or their race should not effect their comments. My family is Dominican and i would never presume from someones profile that they are a particular race or know something. He could be from Dominican Republic who knows or cares. Really ignorant comment.



    Get real. Don't exxaggerate everything. Grow up please


    Chocolateman understands Brother is said with love. No racial remarks here!! Get real.

  • Agree with bmwstack probably best just to ban.Johnny right now before the whole circus starts here as it has at every other forum he has joined. This guy may just be very.childish, a huge attention seeker, or he might be a very clever and hugely dedicated troll. I really am not sure despite being silly enough to get drawn into his topics several times now.

    He is not trying to sell or promote a gambling system, but stupidly insists on calling his opinions on how to handle a compulsive gambling addiction "PROVEN SYSTEM".

    He does not even have the most rudimentary knowledge of the workings of online slots. Does not understand RTP is derived from the reelstrips, does not accept that each game is identical no matter which casino you are playing it at. The reason he is questioning go wild above is that he supposedly believes they have lowered the payouts of their entire casino to compensate for the loss of their UK customers.

    If you should try And explain anything, he will either ignore you or accuse you of being upset because you lost at a casino today. No chance of an intelligent discussion. If you bet less than $5 per spin your opinions are immediately dismissed anyway because a "penny player" does not get the same game, the same odds as a high roller like himself.

    If this guy was in any way serious about helping problem gamblers he would of listened to those who pointed out that "PROVEN SYSTEM" was an unsuitable title for his idea, he would make sure that the information he was posting around so obsessively was accurate, and he would certainly not mock those who question him by insisting the only possible reason anybody might disagree with him is that they must be addicts who lost today.

    I challenge you Johnny to explain your previous actions as described above. Oh, and by the way all those emails you keep making up and pretending they are from your "fans" ... lol, please give it up. U expect anyone to believe you have people messaging you using identical terminology ie "modules" of their "system"... ? Please, give me a break.

    Congratulations on gathering so much attention, that is most impressive. That is all you have done well.

  • Update this Thursday.

    Doing well. No urge today. Tonight is filled with kids activities. Hockey and football(American)

    There will be no gaming tonight. Solid.

    Tomorrow will be much easier. Fridays are always filled.

    Weekend is always the toughest. I have a lot of thinking and preparation. Saturday and Sunday used to be filled with many hours of gaming as kids spend time with grand parents etc.....

    This will be the first weekend PROVEN SYSTEM is going to be tested. I am not scared but anxious to make the week end finish. All I have done this week is tell myself be patient. MONday is coming.

    The exclusions are making this possible. I may have cracked yesterday. Yup. It was bloody long.

    3 1/2 days to until next deposit and play. I can do it. I know I can. I am proud of myself for trying to respect PROVEN SYSTEM.


  • Agree with bmwstack probably best just to ban.Johnny right now before the whole circus starts here as it has at every other forum he has joined. This guy may just be very.childish, a huge attention seeker, or he might be a very clever and hugely dedicated troll. I really am not sure despite being silly enough to get drawn into his topics several times now.

    He is not trying to sell or promote a gambling system, but stupidly insists on calling his opinions on how to handle a compulsive gambling addiction "PROVEN SYSTEM".

    He does not even have the most rudimentary knowledge of the workings of online slots. Does not understand RTP is derived from the reelstrips, does not accept that each game is identical no matter which casino you are playing it at. The reason he is questioning go wild above is that he supposedly believes they have lowered the payouts of their entire casino to compensate for the loss of their UK customers.

    If you should try And explain anything, he will either ignore you or accuse you of being upset because you lost at a casino today. No chance of an intelligent discussion. If you bet less than $5 per spin your opinions are immediately dismissed anyway because a "penny player" does not get the same game, the same odds as a high roller like himself.

    If this guy was in any way serious about helping problem gamblers he would of listened to those who pointed out that "PROVEN SYSTEM" was an unsuitable title for his idea, he would make sure that the information he was posting around so obsessively was accurate, and he would certainly not mock those who question him by insisting the only possible reason anybody might disagree with him is that they must be addicts who lost today.

    I challenge you Johnny to explain your previous actions as described above. Oh, and by the way all those emails you keep making up and pretending they are from your "fans" ... lol, please give it up. U expect anyone to believe you have people messaging you using identical terminology ie "modules" of their "system"... ? Please, give me a break.

    Congratulations on gathering so much attention, that is most impressive. That is all you have done well.






    Soon I will call you a groupie! You follow me everywhere with nothing but provoking threads.

    I like you though. I like all people. I am not a bad person.

    I got nothing against penny players. Actually I envy them.


    Learn to be nice please.
  • Question to people who really don't have a gambling problem but play once in a while?
    This will help me understand.


    You play, you win. Don't u want more?
    Do u constantly have gaming in your head?
    Have u ever had a problem?
    If u had unlimited funds, would you play more?

    Thanks for your help...

  • Oh for the love of god... although I only post here at LCB I read many other forums online and have seen FAR too much of this guy recently. catapult is right, he does not discuss or debate anything with anyone, just a child, seeking attention, ignores any comments he does not like, has no interest in listening to anybody but himself. This thread is mainly just Johnny talking to himself, I feel like I am interrupting by posting!

    Johnny we have not spoken as yet and I would really love to be proved wrong about your intentions, but your response above does not exactly fill me with hope. Why will you not answer anybodies questions? Why will you not debate things like an adult? PROVE you are not just a troll, and maybe this system of yours could have some merit, as it stands you have no credibility whatsoever.

    I won't call for you to be banned just yet, but let me be clear I have read your posts at Casinomeister and therefore it will take a LOT for you to convince me that you anything but an attention seeking troll.

  • Ah yes nice trolling.ignore any and all valid points I make with regards your behaviour and just accuse me now of being a groupie, following you around!! Nobody will notice I have been a member here 18 months longer than you will they? Your so smart...

    As I have said previously I do not really even know you, I have little against you as a person. but the nonsense you post online is nothing less than DANGEROUS. Problem gamblers are a vulnerable section of society and your unproven not-a-system with accompanying screenshots of you betting $10 per spin on twin spin and by some miracle catching a x400 bet win when you have only a handful of spins remaining cannot possibly help anyone. You are giving terrible advice to vulnerable people and I the worst part is you do not seem to even realise you are doing it, nor care if you are infact right or not.

    I will not feed the troll any more now, finished

  • Casinomeister was a very bad experience. I was provoked. Too much.

    What would u like to debate?

    Exactly what is there to debate? What is there to talk about?

    I am open to discuss anything. But know who u r speaking with. I am ill. I have a gambling illness. And don't tell me to go get psychosocial help. Not for me!

    What do I want to debate? That i used to gamble everything I had away for years and years and that's all I wanted day and night?????

    Maybe you want to debate me questioning God asking him why I have this illness?

    Or maybe to debate what I really think of gaming itself?


    Let's be frank for a second.... I am no freaking moron. I am a family man who protects his family first and foremost. Yes after my kids were born, I stopped but always had it in me and every opportunity I had I would take to gamble!

    I work, great family, good income, very active in the community and respected, respect The Lord and follow his rules. I don't have any issues with anyone. Many friends. Good size family.

    And no one knows anything! Except my wife. How lovely! My dirty little secret! F me!

    So, what is there to debate? That I think gowild will pay less now that they left the UK? Of course I think that. Not because they are dishonest! They just lost a million player sir! They gotta get it from  somewhere. These people paid me well in August. Mid 5 figures! I love them. But I am realistic. Sorry Irene.

    Or maybe u wanna talk about my view of playtech casinos??? Sorry but they are deplorable in everyway. 500% bonuses??? Give me a break!


    So, Ü still wanna tAlk? Doubt it!


  • Question to people who really don't have a gambling problem but play once in a while?
    This will help me understand.

    You play, you win. Don't u want more?
    [/quote]
    Sure, sometimes though I win enough that I decide to cashout, others it is not quite enough and I keep playing til either a) I have enough to cashout or b) I go bust. Thats just what gambling is, or at least, thats what I thought?


    Do u constantly have gaming in your head?
    [/quote]
    No? Seems like a really weird question to me... as much as I enjoy playing slots, or blackjack, or roulette, or even poker, it does not rule my life. It's something I do for fun, like playing on my games console or watching a movie or whatever, it sounds as if you have a problem to me.

    [quote author=Johnnygotthebone link=topic=31737.msg321561#msg321561 date=1411078087]
    Have u ever had a problem?


    A gambling problem presumably, no I have not, I realise you do not find this easy to understand but the vast majority of people are able to enjoy this pastime in moderation without it taking over their lives, much like people who drink alcohol, smoke cannabis, visit prostitutes, whichever activity is seen as a 'vice', there are a very large number whom enjoy these activities without it taking control of the rest of their lives.

    [quote author=Johnnygotthebone link=topic=31737.msg321561#msg321561 date=1411078087]
    If u had unlimited funds, would you play more?


    Of course, but no matter how much money I had, I would always establish the affordability of what I was considering doing before actually proceeding. If I can afford £10 per week, that is fine, likewise if I can afford £1000 per week - no problem. If spending £1000 per week will mean my family do not eat for the week, it is obviously not an option. You mention UNLIMITED, which is an entirely fictional situation which nobody will ever find themselves in therefore I fail to understand how the answer can be useful.
  • d your unproven not-a-system with accompanying screenshots of you betting $10 per spin on twin spin and by some miracle catching a x400 bet win when you have only a handful of spins remaining cannot possibly help anyone. You are giving terrible advice to vulnerable people and I the worst part is you do not seem to even realise you are doing it, nor care if you are infact right or not.



    I agree. I will not post my screenies again. It was inconsiderate. I didn't think about people just like me. Seeing me hit 16k on immortal may not be a good idea for someone to see.

    From now on, i believe I will not post screenies again.

    Maybe on the right thread.


  • Casinomeister was a very bad experience. I was provoked. Too much.
    [/quote]

    I do not post at casinomeister very often, but read it a lot when I am bored at work .... I saw you accuse several people of only challenging you because they had lost money gambling. That is pathetic and childish and makes a mockery of your supposed professional experience.


    What would u like to debate?

    Exactly what is there to debate? What is there to talk about?
    [/quote]

    I think it was the other guy who said you refuse to debate anything so this probably was not directed at me, but nevertheless... if somebody replies to your post and raises questions about what you have said, the points you have raised, your opinions.... you will not ever reply to them. You just ignore anybody who does not entirely agree with everything you say and make several posts in a reply in an attempt to throw people off. That is how I have interpreted you so far.

    What is their to debate? Your hopeless knowledge of how online casinos operate, how online slots operate, how variance affects how much you should bet in a particular game, why you think it is possible for somebody to have a "style" of online slot play that can benefit them over another persons "style", why you stupidly believe Casino A has a better RTP on a certain game than Casino B despite the fact that this game has the identical reel strips and mechanics, and is being served from the same computer regardless of which casino you happen to be playing at, why it is necessary for those who do not have a gambling problem to exclude themselves from nearly all online casinos in order to try your "Proven System", why you call it "Proven System" despite the fact you obviously know it was a terrible choice of name for your idea (lets pretend we do not know it is specifically intended to get the most attention possible right now), and as if i need to continue, lets debate the truthfullness of your assertions you are receiving such large amounts of "fan mail" in response to your nonsensical gibberish on these forums. Now that you have been banned from Casinomeister I'm pretty sure he will take pleasure in disclosing exactly how many PMs you ACTUALLY were receiving, and infact, I think I will go and ask him right now. Feeling confident about that one?

    I am open to discuss anything. But know who u r speaking with. I am ill. I have a gambling illness. And don't tell me to go get psychosocial help. Not for me!
    [/quote]

    Ah yes, I have seen you dismiss gamblers anonymous and the like many times. Fair enough those, I can actually agree with you to some extent here. I've suffered major problems with drugs in my lifetime and can honestly say that these types of addictions cannot be solved through councilling and meetings alone. If you are not genuinely convinced in your own mind that you want and need to stop, then it will not happen. Your 'system' is equivalent to the 'harm reduction' approach to substance approach. The methadone maintenance solution. Hell, if you could actually get your head screwed on about all this and promote the damn thing properly it might well have real merit, the whole thing about self excluding from all but 4 casinos and setting deposit limits at those 4, is very smart advice for the problem gambler. Kudos for this jonny! But then you go on to tell people to try and "feel" the slots, that they can play less games, to "learn" how they pay and all this nonsense... see I HAVE read your posts at length... and its just pure garbage. The games are random. The reel strips determine the RTP. The RTP is identical at every casino that offers the game. There is no way to work out when to walk away, or when to keep playing. If you realised these FACTS and included them in your system, you might not have people like me going to such lengths to discredit you.

    I
    What do I want to debate? That i used to gamble everything I had away for years and years and that's all I wanted day and night?????

    Maybe you want to debate me questioning God asking him why I have this illness?

    Or maybe to debate what I really think of gaming itself?

    Let's be frank for a second.... I am no freaking moron. I am a family man who protects his family first and foremost. Yes after my kids were born, I stopped but always had it in me and every opportunity I had I would take to gamble!
    [/quote]

    Sounds like you are some bible bashing american to me, at least from the above statements. Forget god, he did not give you this "illness" - it is all your own doing. You are in control of your destiny. Embrace it. You don't want to be seen as a moron? Then do not come on these public forums proclaiming yourself as the saviour of problem gamblers whilst giving out TERRIBLE advice, at absolute odds with the FACTS of the situation. Your bet size does not matter. The casino you choose does not matter. Each game has a different level of variance. That alone dictates the return you will achieve over the long term. In the short term anything can happen. This is obvious and common knowledge to any educated gambler.

    [quote author=Johnnygotthebone link=topic=31737.msg321565#msg321565 date=1411081607]I I work, great family, good income, very active in the community and respected, respect The Lord zand follow his rules. I don't have any issues with anyone. Many friends. Good size family.

    And no one knows anything! Except my wife. How lovely! My dirty little secret! F me!


    If this is the case, why is it you are so obviously incapable of understanding what is acceptable online? Why do you find it so difficult to become part of a community such as this, you are banned from most forums that you join so quickly?

    [quote author=Johnnygotthebone link=topic=31737.msg321565#msg321565 date=1411081607]I I
    So, what is there to debate? That I think gowild will pay less now that they left the UK? Of course I
    think that. Not because they are dishonest! They just lost a million player sir! They gotta get it from  somewhere. These people paid me well in August. Mid 5 figures! I love them. But I am realistic. Sorry Irene.


    Who is Irene? WTF? Look, understand this, MG create the games, each game has a set RTP, no matter what happens with any single country, the casino cannot modify all of their games to take more money off players to offset this loss. You say they have to get "It" from somewhere, get WHAT?I If they had a supposed target number they must achieve each month, there would be a situation whereby every player could not win a penny until the casino had reached this target number. It never happens. It is not possible. Go Wild obviously do not consider the UK market worth the additional expense of paying the point of consumption tax, and being subject to the new rules which the UKGC would enforce upon them should they wish to continue operating in this country. Casinos simply do not work the way you have imagined they do. If you would just try and accept that for a moment, look around for the FACTS, you would have so much more to offer. Your "system" does have merits. But it is fatally flawed by your own lack or knowledge and understanding. Your arrogance. Yet I have seen so many try and explain this to you, and you just refuse to even acknowledge them. That is your loss, let me assure you.

    [quote author=Johnnygotthebone link=topic=31737.msg321565#msg321565 date=1411081607]I I
    Or maybe u wanna talk about my view of playtech casinos??? Sorry but they are deplorable in everyway. 500% bonuses??? Give me a break!


    I do not really know what you are getting at here. You do not like Playteh? I thought I saw you mention just a few days ago that somebody had shown you that playtech actually had major payout potential. No matter anyway... its yet another ridiculous comment. Playtech, like most other slot makers, has good and bad games. They offer some of the highest variance slots around, with variance FAR exceeding those offered by MG and NetEnt, plus some of the biggest progressive jackpots too. Sure there are dodgy playtechs around ... but also pretty much every major bookmaker in the UK runs playtech software EG Betfred, Ladbrokes, Corals, William Hill, Paddy Power. You going to tell me these five publicly traded companies are ALL pulling a fast one?

    [quote author=Johnnygotthebone link=topic=31737.msg321565#msg321565 date=1411081607]I I
    So, Ü still wanna tAlk? Doubt it!


    No idea if that was directed even directed at me, but Ithink I have pretty comprehensively debunked all of your BS. I will also now not feed the troll any further unless you come up with something VERY worthwhile in response.
  • Damn wscalley that was some impressive post. Whereabouts in the UK are you just our of interest ? Don't think I need to say much after that,  you pretty much covered everything, and you post here much more than me so probably have more respect anyway.

    I wonder how many people will vote in the poll?  Such a nonsensical question considering u r new here Johnny. I have a new PROVEN SYSTEM for washing my car btw
    It gets the alloys real buff. Let me know if u would like the details. Also my PROVEN SYSTEM for cooking chicken nuggets. They are proper tasty.

  • Yup. All casinos are 100% random. 100%. I agree with that.

    A theoretical payout over a period of time that is impossible to disclose. Yup.

    Machines pay exactly the same whether there is a bonus attached of not. Yup.

    Everything is exactly as y'all say.


    7500 deposited at jackpot city. Bonus attached RTP close to 100%. More

    No bonus attached, almost 40%. Yup.

    7500 put in over month 250 at a time.

    Depositing and calling them for a bonus and they just kept giving them.
    No questions asked. Very coonvinient.


    I have all the proof. Analysed by someone who knows his chit. There is no doubt about my numbers!

    Next...... Many of you defend online casinos. You worship them. Good for you.

    I made over 50k net profit since beginning of August. Never depositng more than 250 at any given time. Do I like casinos. I like them as much as the local drug dealer selling drugs to kids.


    Reality is that I am entitled to my opinion. That's what forums are for.
    I have never disrespected a single person on a forum. Ever.



    Back to this important thread. I don't think it is smart to derail it.



    Here are some important factors for PROVEN SYSTEM as it in FULL THROTTLE....

    Needed to be understood..... More will come as it is being respected......


    TIME.... Is not my friend. The hours are long. Hour to hour is slow. Sometimes it seems like it isn't moving. Slowly looking forward to MONDAY is taking it's toll on my patience. It seems like I am just standing in the middle of the ocean with no one in sight. Time will not help. As time goes by, I count the hours until I will play again.

    FORGET....thinking about the past is taking it's toll on me. The winning feeling is no longer inside my body. The adreneline rush has gone away. There are no more daily screen shots of big wins. There are no more auto spins. There is nothing. A dark room with no window is better than this. Forgetting the past must happen. The past is haunting me. The good times and the bad. The sounds are no longer ringing in my ears. My eyes are not hurting anymore. It's all changing but is still present in my thoughts.


    FILL.... Filling the hours during the day is not the same during the night. Nights are long. Night do not pass. I have my family to fill a lot of my time. Without wanting to, they are helping me fill the hours. When they are not with me, I am alone. I try to fill the remaining hours with something to make me happy.

    TOUGH.... I am being hard on myself. I am literally telling myself to stop. To stop being stupid. To stop being sick. To grow up and be a man. Act like a man. Be the best at everything. Don't throw your life away again. Don't be stupid. You have too much to lose. Respect the modules and have fun. Enjoy it. Have fun and don't obsess. Sometimes I hate myself.

    RELAX.... Appreciate what you have and find pleasure in those things. Enjoy your family. Think about them while you look at the 1200 pictures on the iphone of your kids. Put a movie that is interesting. Smoke less. Try and sleep. Find comfort wherever it is. Listen to soft music. Relax the brain. Stop thinking. Be cool. Everything will be ok. Sure I will play again. What difference does it make if it's today or 3 days from now? Find a way to relax. A way to make the fire relax. Keep the fire down and I shall have my happiness.


  • If this is the case, why is it you are so obviously incapable of understanding what is acceptable online? Why do you find it so difficult to become part of a community such as this, you are banned from most forums that you join so quickly?


    I get banned because I speak the truth!
    I am not a puppet who follows. I see things differently

    Most of you are probably young enough to be my kids. You have not seen what I have seen.

    Experience has made me wise. I will not say things to make people like me. No need.

    I have my own illness. Gambling. Controlling it as we speak. Very proud of myself.


    Things I have seen made me wiser. I was not ever able to just stop. I don't know why!

    I get physically sick when the fire rages inside me and it doesn't win. Sick to the point of talking to myself. It's disgusting. I hate that  I hate it more than losing.


    If the mods here have a problem with a person who has a serious problem and is finally trying to better himself with the PROVEN SYSTEM, then all they have to do is ask me to leave. They do not need to ban me. I am not a child.


    But before you tell me to leave, please consider that there are many people with my illness. You know that. Maybe PROVEN SYSTEM catered to their style is exactly whAt they need.

  • Another thing. I was accused of opening multiple accounts at CM. The stupid MOd there Max who should be fired lied! Bryan finally realized he lied and unbanned me. I don't do things like that.

    For all that jumped on the bandwagon with the incompetent Max, you were wrong!

    One account. Never opened another!

  • Mods why is this still happening .  He's now basing another forum.  This is so classless.  Racist remarks  and now this.  I can spend my time elsewhere if this Is the way it'd handled. 

  • I challenge you Johnny to explain your previous actions as described above. Oh, and by the way all those emails you keep making up and pretending they are from your "fans" ... lol, please give it up. U expect anyone to believe you have people messaging you using identical terminology ie "modules" of their "system"... ? Please, give me a break.



    Uhmm. Catapult..... Let's be adult for a second.

    I suffer from an illness that I am trying to control.
    People are reading my posts on multiple threads
    Did it ever cross your mind that maybe some people have similar issues?
    Didn't ever cross your mind that maybe they are trying

    I have better things tondo than make up fake emails sir.

    I can not believe you actually think that? Man, I must be a real loser in your eyes!


  • Mods why is this still happening .  He's now basing another forum.  This is so classless.  Racist remarks  and now this.  I can spend my time elsewhere if this Is the way it'd handled.





    Hey BMWstack. Glad to see you are still with the group following me around. Cool.

    A-I did not bash another forum. I bashed his mod who decision was reversed by Bryan the boss after he was caught lying about me.

    B-racial remarks? If you mean Chocolateman, lmao. He is a brother. What makes you think that I am not a brother as well? Get real man!

    Anyway. Good to see you here following me around bmwstack.

    I have you some advice once. Change your name to GMSTACK. We had a good laugh about that!

    Glad to have read your usual ban the bone post.

    Anyway, I won't be reaponding to Ü again. As usual.
    Stop derailing the thread please. It's a hit! Hopefully people all over the world are trying to better themselves by adopting a PROVEN SYSTEM of their own. It's working great for me.

    Hopefully, next week, I can demonstrate other modules. Let me get my balance over 1500 on any and then SMARTS will show y'all hownto really make some loot. That's the fun side of the suffering that I am going through now!

    Maybe you can learn something as well my friend.


    Later

  • Well. For all those checking in to get an update.....I did it. I did not gamble a penny today!!!!!

    Wow.

    How hard was it? Easier than yesterday. Maybe tomorrow will be even easier. Who knows??

    So easy to play. It's everywhere. In 2 minutes I can source out some unraTed casino and deposit. Temptation made easy!  No thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I did it! Go BONE Go. Lol


    Pour mes amis français, garde la paix. Pour mes amis haïtien, je suis avec vous.

    Sleep is taken over. I can believe it. Read for an hour. Soooooooooo relaxing!!!

    3 days to go.


    FULL THROTTLE. All the way. All modules being respected.  cheesy cheesy

  • Serious decision has been made....

    I will no longer entertain questions and comments that have nothing to do with this informative thread.

    I will give y'all updates on my progress and ignore any remarks that try to provoke me.

    Update...... Almost there. No gambling at all. Today will be a walk in the park. No urge. Zip!


    Thank you.

    PROVEN SYSTEM is complete progress.



  • Mods why is this still happening .  He's now basing another forum.  This is so classless.  Racist remarks  and now this.  I can spend my time elsewhere if this Is the way it'd handled.




    Hey BMWstack. Glad to see you are still with the group following me around. Cool.





    Yeah your a little stuck on yourself I have been a member for  a while, but will not continue to be if they continue to allow your nonsense. 

    You have a serious illness and you need to get professional help.  All you do is talk about yourself and gambling.  You seem very self centered.  You obviously think you are really great.  You really need to take a step back and look at things, because its not just yourself.  You have mentioned family and kids, and quite honestly all your gambling and posting all over the place takes time away from them.\

    That's who you need to go check yourself into rehab for, your family.  Think about how all the time you don't pay attention to them affects them. 

    You can sit here and give a bunch of excuses, but I know you quite well now.
  • Hi guys,

    sorry I was extremely busy ( still am ) and only now got a bit of spare time to tend to this topic.

    I tried to go through every single post and reply, but I gotta be honest and admit that i had to give up after wasting15 minutes of my life.

    Johnnygotthebone I honestly do not know what the heck you are trying to achieve here, but given all the negative feedback surrounding this thread, and reports we received I am closing this topic.

    It does seem like you have the gambling problem and I would advise you to follow this link : https://lcb.org/gamblinghelp.html

    Do let me know if you wish your account closed too, if you find this forum too tempting to get you playing again.

    Also please do not bring up any issues you had with other forums, as we do not allow any kind of bashing, esp when they cannot defend themselves.

    As far as the " racial remark"  I am not quite sure that was indeed one or intended to be one ( however I could be mistaken ), but I would give you the benefit of a doubt with that one.

    Anyways I am putting this topic to rest.

    I am not going to ban you, as you havent broken any rules ( yet ), so if you wish to keep your membership status I advise you not to start new topic about this.
    Unless you want your account closed for which you can private message me your request.

    Zuga

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