I guess I need to re-write this message because it looks as if LCB doesn't like the truth about RTG casinos.
I used the code CHIP100 at here and unbelievably hit a MAJOR JACKPOT, I personally could not believe that it was possible, but it did happen. The reason RTG allows players using N/D codes to hit these jackpots is the simple fact that they don't need to pay them out, that is, if u make the playthrough, all u can get is what the code is worth. In which, makes it extremely unfair to depositing players.
After I hit the MAJOR JACKPOT, I really thought I would b able to make the playthrough, OMG I was wrong!!! I missed it over $1200. UNBELIEVABLE RIGHT!!!
My odds for hitting an even bet b4 the JACKPOT were 1 out of 26, AFTER JACKPOT were 1 out of 42 ? SERIOUSLY RTG.
Hopely players will b able to read this b4 it is removed again. And that they will realize that u just can't win with RTG casinos.
Happy holidays every1
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- dippyboy
- at Nov 23, 10, 09:45:09 AM
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- slotoholic
- at Nov 23, 10, 05:08:36 PM
- Full Member 136
- last active 6 years ago
Sorry dippyboy, but can't stand beside you on this one. :-\ 1st off, LCB is very fair with all members. If this was removed there had to be a reason, not just because LCB doesn't want you to express yourself and how you feel about any RTG Casino.
I've had to learn the hard way but that is my fault no one else's because I failed to read what the expectations were when we are awarded "Free" chips.
The play through for the 100 chip is $3,000.00 and you do have the opportunity to continue to play and to withdraw, only after you have played, your playthrough.
I can understand what it feels like to get that kind of excitement, thinking you have won the jackpot and what a blow it is to you when you are not rewarded the jackpot but please, realize, these are all "free" chips and if you are lucky enough to receive $20.00 or more from these RTG casinos, by all means, take it while you can! ;)
I have played RTG games for years, how many times have I won? Not many but again, these are nothing more than "free" chips and for that, I am grateful for. If by chance,I luck out and win, I win, GREAT! If I lose, well then, in all reality, I never did lose, because it wasn't my hard earned money that gave me the chance to play.
Keep your chin up and relax and just enjoy the freebees that come your way. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving to you and all the LCB Members.
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- dippyboy
- at Nov 23, 10, 11:14:20 PM
- Full Member 188
- last active 2 years ago
My post was not to get people on my side but more to make people understand the true odds of RTG casinos. They advertise that they have the best odds on the net, although, Extremely untrue! I, myself have played in RTG casinos for several years and have noticed a huge change in their odds. The payouts get worse everyday and eventually they won't pay at all!
As for LCB, I just find it strange that I tend to have to re-post things over and over again, I figure that if my post disappears its because LCB doesn't like what I write, THE TRUTH! Its also strange, out of all the casino forums I post things on, LCB is the only one that removes them?? The reason I started posting odds was for the main fact to advise players in what they were spending their money on. After I have been cheated out of money hand over fist by these casinos, it's only fair others be warned b4 investing.
I originally believed thats what LCB stood for. That is, for the players and hope it still is? -
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- ricorizzo
- at Nov 24, 10, 11:17:40 AM
- Sr. Member 400
- last active 6 years ago
Hey dippy, Rico here.
The message your sending, is extremely important. Not being a mod, ( and hopeing one day I will), I can say, it appears the reason some of your post might be vanishing, is the way your wording your posts. It makes no sence to bash LCB. Everyone here, is on the same side. In some of your comments while not directly attacking LCB, you come very close to putting the blame on LCB, for posts regarding RTG, and their methods of operation.
While I'm not dissagreeing with you, on your opinion of RTG, a little bit more tact-full wording, would be appreciated by all, I'm sure.
Understand, I'm not attempting to open a can of worms here, and I sure do understand your frustration, this short note is all about common courtesy, remembering that LCB and it's members are all on the same side.
Happy holidays,
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- Lipstick
- at Nov 24, 10, 11:41:07 AM
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- last active 1 day ago
Hey dippy before you want to go ahead making any assumptions you might want to read this Here.
Your post was moved because it was more of a discussion on RTG casinos and NOT nd chips. I had a redirect link to show it was brought here. If ever in doubt of "disappearing" posts got to your profile and ck out your last posts and there you will find it.
I could go in to a big song and dance here to defend LCB but it looks like our good members here have already done that for me. Thank you for your support and if i have not told you lately......i love ya for it! -
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- zuga
- at Nov 24, 10, 11:50:08 AM
- Admin 8359
- last active 8 hours ago
Hi dippyboy,
Like Lips said your post was moved. That wouldnt of happened if you posted under the right thread, or started your own topic. You have been a long time member to know how things operate here and that we move the off topic posts.
Next time before you accuse LCB for censorship I suggest you to get your facts straight.
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- dippyboy
- at Apr 16, 11, 08:46:26 AM
- Full Member 188
- last active 2 years ago
Dear folks,
In the past I've been quiet irrational with the wording I used. Out of anger I reacted improperly, in which, I am sorry for acting that way. I hope u all forgive me. Please allow me to explain where I'm coming from though.
To cut to the chase, I work for a canino in the real world and I find online gambling to b amazing on how popular it still is. For 5 years now I've been asking every online casino the same question & have still NOT received an answer from RTG Casinos, " What r the odds of winning on ur sites?" My job in the real world, is to know what the odds r in our facility, it takes hours upon hours on a daily basis to know. Although, when it comes to our video slots, it only takes a few minutes to print it out. Video Slots is the easiest thing we do amoung all the table games and other games we regulate. Hence, comparing Video Slots to online gaming, in which, is exactly the same thing, I can NOT get an answer from RTG??? This is either because they A.) Don't know what they r doing, in which I doubt, or B.) Don't want anyone to know how bad their odds r, lol. Either way I'll put my money on........ B!
Many people may consider my wording to b bashing towards RTG, but after being ignored by them, I've becomed discussed. At the time of my previous post, directly after I posted it, I went back to see it & LIPS being her quick self and doing her job so well, moved it to a better place. (sorry LIPS, ;-})
LCB, has always been a Great Site, and if anything I feel remorse for posting what I did. Again, Sorry. -
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- Lipstick
- at Apr 16, 11, 10:38:33 AM
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Hi Dippy
From what i understand RTG software allows each operator independently the control to adjust the payout percentages on the games. Therefore what slot may appear "looser" at one RTG casino doesn't necessarily mean it will be the same at all casinos.
Where does a player even begin to know what the payout percentages are for games? That too is a grey area. Technical System Testing (TST) that is found at the bottom of the homepage of most RTG casinos is the key. This service tests and certifies all games for fairness and randomness of the Random Number Generator (RNG). And in turn determines the Percentage Payout.
But here is the problem with the TST certificate - Sure the casino may proudly wear the seal of the TST but how often is it tested? Was it tested 2 years ago, one year ago or is it tested every month. So another words if a player was to get the percentages from this source how updated is this info considering operators from RTG casinos have free rein to adjust the payouts anytime they feel like it.
Your other option of finding out about the percentage payouts is to go to Customer Service and ask. Yes, i know that is a joke considering half of them can't even tell you what software they use!
I don't personally put a lot of stock in percentage payouts. I did do a thread some time back on this. Click HERE to read more.
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- dippyboy
- at Apr 17, 11, 12:42:30 PM
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- last active 2 years ago
Hey Lips,
Thank you for ur reply.
There r few things I know that u folks might want to know. After my years of working with a casino I have learned a few things here & there. Some of these things I could b shot for, lol. I understand what ur saying, although, u refer to a Random Number Generated (RNG). Maybe I can shed some light upon this concept for others.
Many casinos use this term quiet loosely,( Random Jackpot ) but there is no such animal. It is impossible for a computer to Generate a Random Number or Pattern. For this to exist is as likely as for me to have created the Matrix in my backyard, lol. RNG or what we call at the casino Random Memery Chips (r in a slot machine, all slots have 1) this is a chip that is programed by some1 at the casino. This chip controls the payouts & jackpots based on the number spins played on that machine. For Exp.... a casino is a business, it's created to make money, the last thing a casino wants to do is give more away that it takes in. The average revenue for a caniso is based on their slots, that is, A casino gains aprox. 86% of their profit from slots. Knowing this, if u go to a casino, the odds of u hitting on a slot r already stacked against u. But anyhow, the Random Memory Chip, is per-programmed chip in a slot based on either money take-in on that machine or spins b4 a payout. A casino advertises Random Jackpots to pretty much lure u in to playing those games. People r more likely to play a slot machine if they believe that they have a chance to hit it big. The casino gets away with using this term even thou the casino KNOWS when it's going to hit, because u, as an individual, walking into a casino doesn't know how much money has gone into the machine yet nor do u know how many spins have spun on it b4 u arrived there & sat down. Therefore, it's random to u & every1 else that may play that slot machine.
I hope I explained this so all can understand it & that it is useful. -
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- Cat50
- at Apr 18, 11, 04:39:01 PM
- Superstar Member 6583
- last active 11 hours ago
this has been useful to me (i cant speak for others )thanks for the info
Hey Lips,
Thank you for ur reply.
There r few things I know that u folks might want to know. After my years of working with a casino I have learned a few things here & there. Some of these things I could b shot for, lol. I understand what ur saying, although, u refer to a Random Number Generated (RNG). Maybe I can shed some light upon this concept for others.
Many casinos use this term quiet loosely,( Random Jackpot ) but there is no such animal. It is impossible for a computer to Generate a Random Number or Pattern. For this to exist is as likely as for me to have created the Matrix in my backyard, lol. RNG or what we call at the casino Random Memery Chips (r in a slot machine, all slots have 1) this is a chip that is programed by some1 at the casino. This chip controls the payouts & jackpots based on the number spins played on that machine. For Exp.... a casino is a business, it's created to make money, the last thing a casino wants to do is give more away that it takes in. The average revenue for a caniso is based on their slots, that is, A casino gains aprox. 86% of their profit from slots. Knowing this, if u go to a casino, the odds of u hitting on a slot r already stacked against u. But anyhow, the Random Memory Chip, is per-programmed chip in a slot based on either money take-in on that machine or spins b4 a payout. A casino advertises Random Jackpots to pretty much lure u in to playing those games. People r more likely to play a slot machine if they believe that they have a chance to hit it big. The casino gets away with using this term even thou the casino KNOWS when it's going to hit, because u, as an individual, walking into a casino doesn't know how much money has gone into the machine yet nor do u know how many spins have spun on it b4 u arrived there & sat down. Therefore, it's random to u & every1 else that may play that slot machine.
I hope I explained this so all can understand it & that it is useful.
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- Lipstick
- at Apr 19, 11, 12:16:08 AM
- Admin 13900
- last active 1 day ago
Hi Dippy,
Wow thank you so much for that detailed information! That is really unreal and like the unveiling of a casino myth. I want to know is how these programs get away with being advertised. But to be perfectly honest i have often wondered about the RNG and have had my doubts but believed in it with a blind faith!
I swear i have seen patterns and have had a good sense of when a machine is hot and on a roll. All the while thinking it is impossible because of the RNG. At least now i know i'm not losing my mind.
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- dippyboy
- at Apr 19, 11, 09:01:55 AM
- Full Member 188
- last active 2 years ago
Hey Lips,
I hope u understand why I'm so persistant now on knowing the Real Odds of a online casino?. lol
In the Real World, Casinos get away with advertising RJ's (random jackpots) because it's random to every player that uses that machine, but not to the casino. Casinos have / make games that the odds r in their favor. As long as there is a CHANCE of the player to win, the player plays. Real World Casinos also have an overhead ( electric, remodeling, employees, etc.) but even with their overhead being so high, they seem to have better odds of winning vs. online casinos. An online casinos' overhead can't be that high, but u consistently lose.??? Makes u wonder huh??
I too have seen the same pattern generated on an online slot. I've also noticed that from time to time I get a prolonged spin (mainly when changing bet). Not to mention, the STOP button never works right. I have my theories on this but no facts yet, sry. ;-}. Although, I will guarantee that once I figure it out I will post it.
The one thing I have figured out about online sites is the fact that slots & video poker seem to have the best odds. Unlike Real World casinos, the best games to play with the best odds r roulette & blackjack. Online roulette & blackjack r horrible, lol. I never have seen anything like it b4. I played blackjack & 96% of the time, the dealer got 17 or higher! Meanwhile, my hands were always lower.
As for roulette, u might win on the inside board but if u bet black, it will come up red & if u bet red it will b black, & if u bet both It will land on 0, lol. On the inside board, u may win the 1st few spins, good RUN, RUN AWAY! By the 6th spin, ur now on the downward roll to the depths of nowhere. U'll never see light again, lol.
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- Lipstick
- at Apr 19, 11, 01:11:29 PM
- Admin 13900
- last active 1 day ago
Yes i do understand dippy and i hope when you get to the bottom of it you will share it with us here! Since you work for a casino would be of great interest for the members to hear about them. I am sure you have some really interesting ones.
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- kymbalderas57
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