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        Hiya Guys and Dolls,

        Do you think that this was President Obama's most defining moment in his presidency in his mission to capture Bin Laden? His name will certainly going down in the history books.

        Or do you feel it will take much more then this to change how you feel about what he has done thus far?

        And do you feel he has made the right decisions in the aftermath with withholding pictures?

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        For some, I think it is.  The thing is it is difficult for any President to come after a two-termer.  Moreover, liberals imo have a reputation for being soft on national security, which weighs against the President.

        There is also a stereotype that African-Americans are not smart enough to be head-of-state, much less make swift tactical decisions, such as the Bin Laden ordeal--and there are those determined to perpetuate that belief.

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        I haven't changed my opinion of Obama BUT I do give him credit for making the call and Thank God none of our troops were injured or killed in the process.  Lucky for the President it turned out that way too.

        As I've said before, I don't like Obama as my president but think he seems like a great family man.
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        Good call on Obama's part.  BUT, most of the planning, work and implementation of this had very little to do with Obama.  But...he is certainly out there taking "victory laps" behaving like it is all to his credit. 

        People need to stay focused on how Obama has ruined the economy.
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        Well of course he didn't orchestrate it, there is people specialized in that. But he was a big part of it because he called the shots as to following through and should be standing tall!

        Bush had his chance and backed off. So the influence of decision is a POWERFUL one!



        p.s. i think we are all long overdue to hear one of your romantic escapades!

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        Jon Stewart tonight showed previous broadcasts by various newspeople throughout the current Presidencey.  Hundreds of defining moments.  Personally I think the defining moment was his election.
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        The Mind Doc wrote:

        Good call on Obama's part.  BUT, most of the planning, work and implementation of this had very little to do with Obama.  But...he is certainly out there taking "victory laps" behaving like it is all to his credit. 

        People need to stay focused on how Obama has ruined the economy.
        I think our economy was on it's way down way before Obama took office and I give him credit for handling the Bin Laden situation the way he did,he could have gone with a bombing ..which was one choice and likely taken out innocent lives in the process and it WAS his decision and others to go with the seals. I do not agree with everything he wants or has tried to implement but I haven't always agreed with some of the other Presidents either.Politics...you can't please em all
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        I don't think that Obama deserves much credit for the operation that killed Bin Laden, it's not like he shot the man himself. He is just trying to take advantage of the situation and score some publicity points, I don't like that but I guess anybody else would have done the same thing. If the economy doesn't get back on track I think that he will not be re-elected, even if he kills thousands of terrorists.
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        Lips, Oh, I think Obama was a good "GO" man/leader on this.  But, a lot of this was underway before he came to office.  Remember, waterboarding (aka "tourture") actually got the ball rolling on this.  But, still, Obama did a good job as Commander in Chief on this, no dbout! 

        Hmmmmm....romantic escapades?  Sadly, I've been in a dry spell. 
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        Rosebud, your 110% correct in your statement, of the nations economy tanking, before Obama was elected. Doc come on, what made you say that? Bush is the one, that brought us down.
        Heres a thought while on the subject of economy, our country can be humbled, if we get news of a negative manner. ON the other side of this issue, our country can be ignited with good or great news. We're aware that we've recieved some very stimulateing news.
        Lips, in your opening statement, on this thread, you mentioned Obamas defineing moment in history. If this Bin ladin issue can get our economy going again, ( I believe theres a very good chance it will), these two isuues, would certainly define his time as president, plus get him re-elected.
        Let's see where our economy is in a year or so. To go further into the future, we would then have Democrat Presidents for a few more terms, untill our GOP makes eveyone aware of the spending the Dems. are doing, and then will go back to Republican Presidents. This scene, has played itself out, in our last 50-60 years, a couple of times allready.
        Finishing, Obama and staff, did a great job with the Bin ladin issue. but let's not make that a REp. or Dem. thing. If a Rep. was in office, good chance the story would be very similar.
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        The Mind Doc wrote:

        Lips, Oh, I think Obama was a good "GO" man/leader on this.  But, a lot of this was underway before he came to office.  Remember, waterboarding (aka "tourture") actually got the ball rolling on this.  But, still, Obama did a good job as Commander in Chief on this, no dbout! 

        Hmmmmm....romantic escapades?  Sadly, I've been in a dry spell. 


        I think he did an excellent job. I think sometimes what we tend to forget as a society the decisions a president has to make. After all he is human too. He has a family and has children and surely wants the betterment for their future. Unless you are a very heinous man running the country you want like we all do the best for all the people. The stress level to do what is right and the risk factors involved in undertaking this operation was immense.

        Things could of went terribly wrong. I shutter to think what could of happened if there was a take over by Bin Laden and his crew. I wouldn't want to have to make the types of decisions he does.

        I don't really think his mission was to simply put a feather in his cap and parade around town. This was real drama and a serious undertaking. But then again the US is always under attack for what they do. We are use to it. This just didn't benefit us it benefited the world.

        I just wish at times more credited was given to where credit was due. And in this situation our Seals and our President deserve the highest honors for their endeavors.

        p.s get cracking on the romances, there's a long hot summer ahead!

        Lips
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        Rico.....Get ready for this...I actually agree with you!  Bush did great damage to the economy. 

        But, I assert that Obama certainly has made it much, much worse.  In addition to Bush's national debt, Obama has added $10 TRILLION. 

        Yes, 240,000 "new" jobs were added in April, but 66,000 were at McDonalds.  Hardly a robust Obama "recovery" to the recession.

        Talk to most small business owners.  They are very hesitant to hire people for fear that Obama will tax them or sink them with Obama health care.

        Don't believe it?  In late 2007, I employeed 15 people.  The recession hit and I cut that back to 8.  I probably could hire 4-5 more now.  But, I won't.  Why?  I fear Obama is going to tax my business, or make me pay large amounts to pay for people's health insurance.  There are 100,000s of small business owners like me.....we'd hire more, but Obama does not create a trustworthy environment to expand payrolls.

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