Does gambling make us untrustworthy as people??

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        OK, I got a question for you guys.....maybe people do percieve gamblers as untrustworthy....or maybe it's just me.  I recently got into a little financial stitch that I really needed help with and surpisingly no one would help me out...not my friends, and even more disturbing none of my family.....damn near everyone of them said I would help you, but I'm afraid I'll loan you the money and you'll just gamble it away.......Has anyone else ever had this kind of response before.......??????
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        I dont think my family looks at me as untrustworthy, But I do know my family thinks that gambling is a terrible waste of money and they highly disapprove of it except for once in a while as entertainment.
                Gambling is something people can really look down their noses at other people for.  It matters little to them if you gamble even occasionally , they still can see it as a bad choice and be highly judgemental towards it.
                    I enjoy gambling, and I no longer hide that fact. So I have come across people that give me that "LOOK when I say I went to the casino.  Ecspecially my family. (my family is my worst critics)
              Judging you as untrustworthy simply because you like to gamble is a bit harsh.
        It's like saying ALL gamblers have no self control or brains. Which is not the case in my opinion. 
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        Well...In the past, this was true. Though my Mother would "Loan" me some money (If I asked) but when that occurred, it was to bills.

        However, when I paid off my car, she actually said (Though not being specific) I'm so pleased you did this, I thought you'd have had it repossed long ago"

        That did happen with my Durango, but that was due to layoff.

        However, since Mom passed away, we don't talk a lot or hadly at all to each other.

        So I'm not about to ask them for spare cash as I know they'd not give it to me and cite whatever reason fit it.

        If I was in your shoes, I'd tell them what the money was for and would then give them the receipt that showed them I was telling the truth. However,  the perception is still there and probably will always be. No matter what you do to dispell it.

        I happen to know a guy whose family STILL refuses to speak to him after 10 years in G.A. for what he did years past and has shown he is free of the addiction.

        LIke I said. Their perception won't let them look at you in any other way but "They are a fool"
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        funny you mentioned the reciept....one person actually told me, that if i paid what i needed to pay and showed them the reciept that they would give me the money...sounds nice, but only problem is i don't have the money in the first place....so that doesn't really help me at all.....and for the record my gambling isn't out of control...i gamble like someone else would go to a bar....maybe once a week or 2 i'll put $20-$50 on a casino...nothing major, thats my idea of a night out, and would probably spend at least twice as much is i really did go out instead...but of course no one see's it that way!
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        Well, I doubt they were even really going to give you any money anyway.

        IN my family, I have to laugh due to one person who tells me "You should stop gambling" I call it funny as with a single phone call, I could have her arrested for Felony Grand Theft (By deception) and so it's really a "Hypocritical" stance many have who don't gamble, but they are no better then you in life.

        Why don't I make the call?...Good question as I have been praying she would. But I suspect the money has been spent, but either God (Or Karma) will deal with them at a later date.

        So I lead my life as best I can and basically ignore them as they really aren't part of my life anymore.
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        I don't think how much money you spend makes a difference.  $50. dollars a week, or $1000. a week...it is all how it affects you, and the people around you.

        Gambling in itself has always had negative connetations.  My line of work, to gamble, is just as bad as being a drug addict, alcoholic, etc.

        You are in a precarious position, and it is automatically presumed that you would sell out your country's secrets for gambling debt.  We are looked upon not just as untrustworthy, but traitors.  We are not allowed to admit that we gamble at all.

        I have openly admitted that I have a gambling problem, whereas, I cannot stop once I start...it's not a major problem.  I don't steal money for gambling, I don't borrow money for gambling, I don't let my car get repo'ed, I pay my rent, etc.

        The thing is my problem is with myself, and I have not extended it to my family, friends, etc. 

        When you start effecting other peoples lives, maybe they can say something about it.

        When they are casual observers, I believe they should mind there own freaken business, unless you are hurting them, or you are hurting yourself...then maybe they can say something to say they care..but that is as far as it should go.

        As far as labeling, and judging people based of the fact only that they gamble  I think,
        is ludicris, and probably as ignorant as saying people who watch porn are untrustworthy.  Unless you have some specifics of someone, and they have a bad track record, it is not a fair statement.


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        First, lots of folks HAVE been burned by giving money to gamblers.  If gambling is an addiction it increases the chance of theft or some form dishonesty.  If one is not an addict, but in the "problem gambler" category, then there is less of a chance dishonesty. 

        Second, if it is in the hobby category, then I feel gambling gets a bad reputation.  My teenage son plays golf.  Heck...I spend WAY more on his golf than I have ever lost gambling!  A friend owns a boat.....he blows WAY more money on a boat than I even PUT UP to gamble.  Yet, they are not seen as dishonest or lacking of trust.



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        Hi Guys,

        To some, gambling is nothing more than a waste of money. When the chips are down and we need a little help..the first thing thrown in a gamblers face is..."you shouldn't of spent it on gambling".

        As we all know and it has been said so many times here at the forum...its one thing to gamble for entertainment...but when a player tries to chase back their losses that's when the trouble begins.

        As a gambler, they are the least to get sympathy. A person with any other addiction..drinking, drugs etc...has a physical appearance of a person who is ill thus generating more empathy.

        Any person who says they do not have an addiction of some nature is lying. Its the  human condition. A friend of my once got very agitated at her sister for being over weight. She could not comprehend why she simply could not control her food. She herself was slim and a smoker. So i asked her....has your sister (a nonsmoker) ever hounded you to quit smoking? Her reply was "no".....then how i asked, can you judge her about her food addiction when you have a nicotine addiction.

        Its very easy to judge and cast stones at others when they themselves have an addiction equal to or if not worse.  Gambling in our society is still considered taboo, particularly when help is needed on a financial level. That is unfortunate for those of us that are not abusive....and have our reputation tainted as a compulsive gambler.

        Are we not to be  considered  trustworthy as a gambler...i would have to say yes. The reason being...we have to keep our enjoyment a secret to some...because in moment of crisis...like the example Satan gave..........we are simply not worthy.

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        I drink, i smoke, i gamble, have not been conscidered untrustworthy
        I don't treat others as though they are in times of need, because
        as Lips said, you cannot condemn one for you are condemned in yourself
        in someway.
        satansmuff, think of it as a blessing, you are finding out who is who
        in the world, even though it hurts your heart for their response, you won't have the struggle to pay it back, and you don't want money from someone
        who thinks of you in that fashion, always remember what goes around
        comes back around, your day will come
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        Some people just are very judgemental..it's best to not say anything to them, because of course they are better than we are
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        thank you guys for your response's....and i couldn't agree more with lips about people being hypocrites...My brother for example isn't rich, but very well off and he knows i don't gamble to often and when i do it's always under $100...anyways he calls that a waiste of my money, but yet he goes out drinking every single night...his tab is always between $60-$150.....EVERY NIGHT, but he calls my biweekly $50 a waiste?? How is that any different??? And by the way, I don't even play every 2 weeks...on average when I actually had money to spare, thats about all I played, and yes that was my weekend out, so if I chose to play a casino, then no movie, or dinner, or pool ,or drinking that weekend for me....................
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        Don't let other people make you feel bad about yourself.  I don't know about you, but I am more hard on myself than anyone, and I don't need any other shitheads
        making me feel worse.  But there are alway people that want to try, I just don't let them get away with it anymore.  And the people who bitch the most are the most hypocritical.  I either yes them to death, or don't admit that I am gambling anymore to these people.  I don't need it, and you don't either.  We shouldn't have to explain to anyone how our money is spent, whether it is wasted, or not.  We don't all have the same tastes, and we don't all have the same idea of what is entetainment.
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        nalgenie wrote:

        Don't let other people make you feel bad about yourself.  I don't know about you, but I am more hard on myself than anyone, and I don't need any other shitheads
        making me feel worse.  But there are alway people that want to try, I just don't let them get away with it anymore.  And the people who bitch the most are the most hypocritical.  I either yes them to death, or don't admit that I am gambling anymore to these people.  I don't need it, and you don't either.  We shouldn't have to explain to anyone how our money is spent, whether it is wasted, or not.  We don't all have the same tastes, and we don't all have the same idea of what is entetainment.

        Nal,

        You bring up a very good point...we ARE sometimes our own worst enemy. Who needs to hear the ridicule from someone else. We all are unique and react, forgive, laugh, cry and entertain ourselves differently.
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        it's the opposite for me...when people see me..it's seems that they like the fact that i gamble and for the very few times when i needed a quick loan...it's usually right there for me within minutes...then again...only once was i not able to pay it back the next day...felt bad about that one...yet even that guy still loves that i gamble and he gave me another loan again just last year (this time he got it back within 2 hrs)..i've had ppl (even my own mom hehe) ask me to play with their money - however i always refuse - something about it - feels like a jinx or something...not sure but somehow it just doen't sit well with me. with mom..i just put in my pocket and then gave it back with an extra $100...lol

        ......and i just looked up..and who do i see?!?!  lipstick...and her new pic....

        ....i think....


        think...


        .............nice.....
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        soda69 wrote:

        it's the opposite for me...when people see me..it's seems that they like the fact that i gamble and for the very few times when i needed a quick loan...it's usually right there for me within minutes...then again...only once was i not able to pay it back the next day...felt bad about that one...yet even that guy still loves that i gamble and he gave me another loan again just last year (this time he got it back within 2 hrs)..i've had ppl (even my own mom hehe) ask me to play with their money - however i always refuse - something about it - feels like a jinx or something...not sure but somehow it just doen't sit well with me. with mom..i just put in my pocket and then gave it back with an extra $100...lol

        ......and i just looked up..and who do i see?!?!  lipstick...and her new pic....

        ....i think....


        think...


        .............nice.....

        Its about damn time you noticed me soda....wink!

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