Does This Make You Jealous..........

I've had friends/acquaintances in the past who have said their other half had the hump cos they fancied George Clooney or another tasty celeb! 

Fortunately, it's not happened to me....as yet.

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My husband thinks Kim Z from Housewives of Altanta is hot.  I just OL at him since she has fake hair, boobs, nails, face, etc. etc.  Does it hurt me?  Heck no.  Am I jealous?  Far from it. 

My husband will tell me if he like a ladies outfit/shoes/hair/look, while we are out and I don't care one bit.  He doesn't say it rudely or disrespectfully to me.  I also tell him if I find a man/woman attractive.

If he oogled over a friend or neighbor... that would be another story.

My hubby, who used to be in the entertainment industry, has been around a lot of celebrities. He knows I find Daniel Craig to be very sexy. So much so, that he went out and bought all of his James Bond movies for me. He would introduce me if he were still in the business. He does not get jealous because he knows that I may have an infatuation, I wouldn't do anything about it if given the chance. Just because we are attracted to a celebrity's image doesn't mean they are the person they portray. As my hubby will tell you; out of every actress he found to be very sexy, he was always disappointed when meeting them in real life.

What if your husband continually picks celebrities on kiddie shows and movies to watch and drool over, makes comments about how hot some celebrity pre-teen is ("she's an eight year old hottie!!"), looks at little people on TV and gets all hot and bothered because they look like a child, but also have (small) breasts?  Or if you catch them in the bathroom whacking it out while looking at a teen or cheerleader magazine.  I doubt you would be jealous, right? 

Or if it were an adult celeb they were obsessing over in the same ways, would that be the same as if you just heard the once-in-awhile "that person is hot"? 

Me, too, Gabby!  It does happen, though, especially now that they've got shows like "toddlers and tiaras"  I think society goes too far in this area and I wonder what some parents are thinking making their little kids into, well, for lack of a better description, little objects of adult fantasies.  I think that these kind of shows and ways of making children appear as little hotties (again for lack of a better term) puts some adults in the wrong frame of mind when they might otherwise have been in the right frame of mind, know what I mean?  "Lead us not into temptation"!

I am in TOTAL agreement Lips.

Statistically, the most "active" pedophiles are women, according to the FBI.
Whereas, the most "passive" pedophiles are men.
In the past three years, 85% of all arrests nationwide have been female, mostly teachers.
http://crime.about.com/od/sex/ig/female_pedophiles/

I understand what y'all are saying.  But I think that if you have to win a child's pageant by wearing wigs, false teeth, clothes that are overly revealing, fake eyelashes, spray on tans, fake fingernails, adult makeup, and do "sexy" moves, it's exploiting the child.  But then, that's just my opinion.  Seeing these 4 year olds sucking on a pacifier and screaming at their parents and getting away with it, while dressed up like a porn star is just a little much.  For me.  I'd prefer (and this is probably why I'm not in the pageant business) to see the children look more natural, and be judged on their talent, their personalities, and not have to be so fake.

As for pedophiles, having been the victim of a few, they are sick bastards.  Have I ever noticed an attractive child?  Yes!  Would I want to have sex with one?  NOOOOOOO!!!!!

Are some people born pedophiles, like some people are born gay?  Gee, I don't think so.  Something(s) happened along the way to make children attractive to them.  Maybe I am wrong.  But if they are constantly exposed to images of children dressed up to look like smokin' hot babes, it seems it might tip the scales at least a little bit toward whatever it is that makes a pedophile a pedophile.

When I grew up we played cops and robbers, cowboys and indians, had play guns and rifles, and some of us had real guns and rifles we were taught to use.  Not all of us grew up to be gangsters.  These days, buying toy guns has become a "bad" thing because it leads to violence and gunplay.  Right?  Well, if you follow the same path with other things like overly sexualizing young children, doesn't it lead to making them sexual objects in some cases just like playing with guns lead some to a violent adulthood?

I wouldn't go out of my way to put my kids or grandkids in a situation where I know some of the people watching may have impure thoughts.  You can't keep the pedophiles away in any situation.  They are there.  But you don't have to advertise your youngsters as hot stuff.  It's like sending out an invitation.  Unfortunately.  And in my opinion.  It's playing with fire.

I have nothing against pageants in general.  I am talking about the extreme versions that are becoming so popular.  Take a look for yourself by doing a google search for "toddlers and tiaras".  Probably 90% of these images are okay, IMHO.  The other 10% though, are portraying children in adult manners that IMHO just go too far.

but to get back on topic, no I wouldn't be jealous if my obviously noticed a celebrity or non-celebrity as being "hot".  I wouldn't want to hear things that were said to make me feel somehow compared in a bad light while they were doing so, though.  That would tick me off.

Whoa, there, Lips.  gosh in no way am I shifting the blame on the child!  Thought I was putting the responsibiltiy on the parents. 

And yes, you are right they should lock up people who prey on children.  And you shouldn't be involved with pedophiles.  And pedophiles are bad.  Sorry my post was interpreted in any other way.  And yes, there are many things seriously wrong!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTxL5o4TH5g&feature=related

I don't think I'm alone in my opinion.  the highest rated comments on this clip were: 
the sickest thing I have ever seen! THUMBS UP IF HER PARENTS SHOULD BE JAILED!
and
This parent needs to be turned in to Social Services!!! Putting cone breasts on a child & parading them as if she was a circus dog. These parents have mental conditions & need to stop & evaluate WHY they are putting their babies through this!!!! At that young age they are like sponges and will only want or like what their environment exposes them to!!! Very disturbing!!!!!

On the other hand, the judges and some audience members seem to think this 2 year old in the cone bra was peachy and keen.

I'll put in my 2cents on beauty pageants.  While it is not the fault of the child or parent (obviously it's the fault of the perv. who gets off on kids) BUT!!!  and a big ole' BUT!!, if I know there are pedophiles and creeps out there searching the tube and internet for little girls dressed up like adults, why would I put my child in that position?

Nobody deserves to be mugged but should I walk down a low class, crime ridden dark alley with $100 bills taped all over my body and then 'cry foul' when someone knocks me out and takes the money?  Don't think so.

First of all, I truly apologize for turning this post into a discussion on child beauty pageants and pedophilia, and that I was unable to communicate eloquently enough to not be misunderstood.  I hope the rest of this post is helpful to explain what I was speaking of, and offers food for thought about this other issue.  I also know it is lengthy but hope you will read it out.  Okay, I could be wrong.  No surprise.  Beauty pageants don't cause pedophilia in an otherwise normal adult individual.   But some of the child beauty pageants attract pedophiles.  Since I am apparently not conveying my thoughts well here is a paraphrase from some internet posts:

One basis of preventing pedophilia is education. Children must be taught to avoid situations that make them vulnerable to pedophiles. Adults who work with youth must be taught to avoid situations that may be construed as promoting pedophilia.  Parents must work to correct the inappropriate expression of prepubescent sexualization of their children {as in the 2 year old wearing the missile-bra) and not allow participation in the inappropriate eroticization of childhood that is the underlying tease of these pageants.  Mature men and women do not take an interest in the overt sexualization of children idealized as adults.

also, here is a blog from Telewatcher (the underlined part is what I was trying to get across about leading people into temptation):

Child Pageants: A Pedophile’s Dream Come True
Posted by Brenda Odom in Reality on May 8, 2009
TLC’s reality show Toddlers & Tiaras has got to be a pedophile’s dream come true. Where else do you get to watch little girls prance around in very inviting clothes and wearing hair and make-up that make them look sexy? It is bad enough that these types of pageants exist, but to put one on television so every pedophile in the world can see it is beyond any reasonable person’s way of thinking. Most people can see how dangerous this can and will be.

These child pageants have children under the age of 10 flaunting everything out on a stage, in a two-piece bikini, made-up to look like adults. Pedophiles are everywhere and keeping your child away from one is hard enough, so why place one’s child on display like that, which brings even more unwanted attention.

Now only parents are allowed to attend these pageants, but parents can be pedophiles. Now with this show, you cannot tell me that only parents watch the show. This show brings these little innocent children, dressed in sexy and revealing clothes, right into the living room of these perverts. People, there are pedophiles watching that show and having very nasty fantasies about what to do with and to these little girls. We know from the JonBenet Ramsey case that these fantasies can invade one’s life and explode leaving tragic results. Some people are driven to live out these fantasies, why put these girls on the air and exploit them in that way.

Read this simple profile of a pedophile that was written by a police detective in New Rochelle, N.Y named Mark Gado: http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/psychology/pedophiles/7.htm

Now that you have read the profile, tell me there is no way they exist in this world of child beauty pageants or getting turned on by watching this show on television and the internet – try to tell me some pedophile is not getting off watching this filth? Even if the girls on the show are safe and the ones at pageants are safe (which we all know they are not), what about the little girl next door that is going to have to pay the price for this show’s negative effects? Pedophiles are sick and while this show cannot be blamed for them, it sure is not helping any, and that they can be blamed for. We are all responsible for raising the children of our nation.

People call child beauty pageants a “guilty pleasure,” which means people knows it is wrong to watch this filth and they do it anyway. However, to a pedophile, he or she has another reason for calling it a guilty pleasure.

I will say that when the murder of JonBenet Ramsey came out, I saw one of her clips of a performance. I thought "God help any little girl who sees this and thinks this is the way to behave"

It was obvious that she had been taught by her Mother how to do certian things and so she "Possibly" didn't realize what her actions may have meant to others. But to a pedo, it probably was a sick thrill.

I never cared about "Beauty Pagents" but having children act or perform like this to win a pagent, is a bit....excessive.

Back to the topic, the celeb thing doesn't make me jealous. Then again if it's 10 minutes later and he's still going on about someone then I would probably get a little irritated.

Our response is usually oh c'mon I'll never meet her or him. But what if you did? Would fantasy become a reality? I think that's why some tend to get jealous. It's the "what if".

I always try to remember what the celebrity would think of when hubby or wifey made their "move", should they ever meet up.  That makes me see how ridiculous it would be to be jealous over lusting after a celebrity.  But, yep, it would get irritating if was seeming obsessive, for sure. 
Unless your spouse looks as good as or better than your normal pretty celebrity, you've got nothing to worry about in the hook up arena.

I had a girlfriend that was crazy about religious leader Robert Tilton.  When I would go to her house, when that show came on, that was all that mattered.  Then I had to go with her to see him when he made an appearance.  Unbelieveable!  
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that reminds me of a friend who really liked Buckner Fanning, a local preacher with great charisma.  One Saturday night (at a bar) she literally begged me to go with her to church the next day to see him as he was being guest preacher.  I dragged myself out of bed, hungover, the next morning, drove over to her apartment, knocked on the door, and she finally answered.  She was still in bed with a guy from the bar the night before, and didn't want to go anymore!

If we all had personal trainers, hair and makeup people, gazillion dollar outfits, etc. most of us would look a heck of a lot like a celebrity. 

Many people buy into the illusion.  It's just that, an illusion. 

I OLOL at the man who does the LALALA..fingers in the ears... when he's told airbrushing is used. Heaven forbid the illusion is ruined.


If someone has a celeb crush, it's obviously just a superficial attraction since obviously nobody knows the object of their affection.

ahem...don't know how to say this, but I was just flipping channels and guess what was on TLC?  The episode with the missile bra!  Now, that seems like poetic justice for me!  PS the season finale is on tonight, for those who might want to see probably the best of the show.

Gabby, yes it is all make-up. Everyone remembers Susan (Mahoney) Summers, right? Susan, (I'm not spelling this right, because the last syllable in her first name is loud, su-SAN) anyway, is from San Bruno, CA. I was born an raised in San bruno. she had 2 brothers and 1 sister. When she was in front of the camera, she looked pretty good, anyway to me. Take my word for it. the four of them, are very average looking people. Could even be considered a bit below.
I'm not attempting to put the Mahoney family down, but thats the way it is!
                                Rico

   Chillymellow you said...                  " Seeing these 4 year olds sucking on a pacifier and screaming at their parents and getting away with it, while dressed up like a porn star is just a little much.  For me."  


                                          Getting away with what?  
                A baby teething or "sucking" as you put it, on a pacifier should never be looked at or discribed as a PORN STAR !


  You also said....                "Maybe I am wrong.  But if they are constantly exposed to images of children dressed up to look like smokin' hot babes"
  As for pedophiles, having been the victim of a few, they are sick bastards.  Have I ever noticed an attractive child?  Yes!  Would I want to have sex with one?  NOOOOOOO!!!!
Are some people born pedophiles, like some people are born gay?  Gee, I don't think so.  Something(s) happened along the way to make children attractive to them.  Maybe I am wrong

                  chillymellow, Has something happen along the way for you to find a child attractive. ?
   Your comment of children    "dressed up to look like smokin' hot babes"  is very Disturbing.
And did you really need to ask yourself if you would want to have sex with "ONE"
                                     >:(   Diane and Denise     The Twins.
                                                 

wow, Diane and Denise, what the heck?  1st the emphasis I meant to convey was that they were screaming at their parents like little divas, and the parents were fine with that behavior.  The pacifier thing was there because as they were screaming and acting out, they were sucking on a pacifier.  And I only described the child as a porn star because she was dressed up in a very provocative manner, and I agree, they should never even be dressed in any way that should be able to be called provocative.  I should probably not have used the word pornstar, my mistake, not intentional.  They were dressed like sexual adults.  Is that any better?  Perhaps, if not, you can provide a more proper term.

Secondly, nope, nothing has happened to me along the way to find a child attractive, and as for them being dressed to look like smokin' hot babes, I find that very disturbing as well that their parents dress them that way and encourage them to gesture or present themselves in manners that should be reserved for adults.

Thirdly, I wasn't asking myself anything.  I was answering an as yet unasked question, in advance, for people like you who want to try to read that kind of filth into what I said.  I wanted to be sure my feelings were not misinterpreted.  Guess I missed the mark on that one.

I don't mind the attack, if that's what it's meant to be.  It's only the internet...and I welcome your right to express your views here but you've got me made out all wrong, and so I am responding.

I *was* abused when I was two, and later, and that did cause some issues in my life, but not an issue in which I have any improper thoughts or feelings concerning children.  Thanks for asking.  I hope your questions have been answered, regarding my post.  I actually am glad you asked so that I could hopefully alleviate your concerns.

This looks like a good spot to ramble on hope I focus on some of the subject.   Okay It's all my fault, that's why I'm here. I'm not sure if I can swallow where y'all are coming from or who cut the cheese! Much too read. Too much of anything is not good. Being obsessed and being jealous are both sick. Children should be fussed over by their grandparents. If they want to play dress up, make up and fantasize, do it with other children. and in a safe environment. Not all the crap and sickos can be put at bay and all you can do is cover your a----  the best you can. Flaunting these precious little ones of course could be invite to tragedy. Martial arts more practical. Having common sense very helpful. Spending hours to put on makeup, what a waste of time. Never been a beauty queen myself, but finding myself nowadays feeling much more comfortable looking like hell. Still doesn't keep all the animals away but I don't need to carry a baseball bat. Many people I know are jealous of me believe it or not for one reason or the other. If they had any idea or at least paid attention or hear what is said. Being a little discrete doesn't mean one can't enjoy a beautiful life.    OMG chilly c'mon you poor dear let's go find some free chips. 

Chilly,

I'm sorry you seem to have taken a hit on this topic.  Although I think a bit of your wording may have been misconstrued, I got your point.  I never thought you got a thrill out of watching kiddies dress like provocative adults.

You handled yourself, being 'called out' in a very upstanding, calm manner. Kudos!

I'm sorry what you endured as a child.  Thank for for sharing.

As for me.... I think this subject has taken an icky turn and this will be the last post from me.  Just felt Chilly could use someone else on her side.

"...but you didn't say if it made you feel jealous? Did it?"---Lips

Well, I was hoping the emphasis I was stressing would make it crystal clear.  Let's say if I took you to a Madonna concert and I had a visibly private moment how would you feel?