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    "Today, most of the good people are afraid to be good. They strive to be broadminded and tolerant. It is fashionable to be tolerant but mostly tolerant of evil and this new code has reached the proportions of demanding intolerance of good."
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        "Today, most of the good people are afraid to be good. They strive to be broadminded and tolerant. It is fashionable to be tolerant but mostly tolerant of evil and this new code has reached the proportions of demanding intolerance of good."
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        OK, here's some fun thinking for everyone.

        You have entered a store which has self checkout. You have selected your purchases and are checking them out when you notice that in the change tray (Stupidly located below eyesight) has a thick stack of $20's in it. Obviously more then 1 shopper has forgotten their change and/or cashback.

        Now the attendant is not there. In fact, the area except for you, is pretty deserted.

        What do you do?
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        Genenco i have had this happen more then once, i always turn it in or call an attendent, yes they can see you take that money and will get you the next time you are in IF they want to, so if you do take it don't ever go back.. you will always be labeled as the person who took the money even if they didn't do anything about it, you won't know it they will just look at you, treat you like nothing happened.. alot of these places will print your picture and paste in on the walls in the back..a corner in the back of the store labeled.. "there are thieves amongst us" i worked for grocery stores before.

        I myself before this, before i knew had always returned money, because i knew who's it was.. UNLESS it was on the floor in some location or blowing in the wind then fate or destiny says.. "hey you, take this and keep stepping" because we have no idea who's it is, can't wave it in the air and say.. Hey who does this 20 belong to, i just found it on the ground, cuz we know 10 to 100 people could claim it lol..

        Also, it would be the guilt of knowing its wrong to take something that wasn't mine, that was a mistake. I couldn't handle it, i'd think now that i took that someone or something is gonna take from me.. better living poorer and guilt free.. then richer and having to watch your back or think karma gonna get you.
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        In this situation I have a devil sitting on one shoulder and an angel on the other. I would like to be able to say that I would turn the money in for the right reasons but the reason for me would be fear of karma. Does that make the choice sinful and just as bad as taking the money? I suppose fear of payback doesn't exactly make this a selfless act.
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        I'll do what's right and leave feeling good
        whatever seems right at the time. 

        But...I once kept $100 the bank gave me for some reason-above the withdrawal I was supposed to get.  Went and bought groceries and much needed household supplies.
        Went into the hospital the next day.

        karma...what a feeling...
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        in this economy everyone is feeling the sqeeze on thier wallets.
        but no matter how bad i needed the money, I would never take it.
        Karma has a way of biting you in the butt, and it will probably cost you more than you gained.

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        I would be scared to death to take it! Call me a wuss. Forget the fact that i would be a good person. I would have 2 fears:

        1) I would get caught on camera

        2) I would get whats coming to for taking it.

        Not to mention the guilt would eat me alive. I would envision some poor soul that forgot their change and it's the only money they had left for the week.

        Now what if we knew the person was rich.....i mean really rich and left a wad of cash would that change things around?

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        What makes anyone think that the person this money belongs to would ever get it back anyway? Some people have mentioned that they may have known who the money belonged to somehow and would have turned it in or called an attendand for this reason. But do you really think that it would then find its' way back to the rightful owner?

        I'm betting that it would just go right back into the stores' economy as a slight surplus, or more likely would just go right into the pocket of whomever was notified of its' existence. Unless it had only been sitting there for a very short time and the person that left it could be identified w/some degree of certainty there would probably not be much point to the person being notified of trying to "do the right thing" anyway. Especially if this were the result of an anonymous cash transaction, which it more than likely would have been. This sounds a lot like money blowing in the wind to me; anyone can claim it, and they probably will.

        This doesn't mean that I would necessarily be the claimant.  But I would be more concerned about the possibility of cameras or possible set-ups than taking the supposed moral/ethical high road. If I were pretty darn certain that big brother wasn't watching, wasn't paying attention or just didn't care, I'd probably just pocket that little bonus as if it were my own and keep right on steppin' out the door without so much as a glance over my shoulder. The possibility of some kind of anonymous "guilt trip" poster like you described imagin, posted up somewhere in the store for all to see, would also dissuade me. But I've never heard of or encountered these at any place I've worked. Not that I don't believe you though. If you can vouch for their existence, that's just one more reason to second guess or deny the initial temptation.

        If I had been the unfortunate fool in this situation though (and I'm sure I have been), the last thing I would expect would be a phone call from a store manager a few days later saying "hey brad, you remember all that cash you left sitting in the registers payout the other day? Well, we've got it right here waiting for you. Boy, you sure were hard to track down!"

        Yeah, I wouldn't be sitting around waiting for that phone call.

        ps: Just took a look at that poll. Boy, we sure do have a lot of really honest degenerate gamblers around here! 
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        bradwill wrote:

        What makes anyone think that the person this money belongs to would ever get it back anyway? Some people have mentioned that they may have known who the money belonged to somehow and would have turned it in or called an attendand for this reason. But do you really think that it would then find its' way back to the rightful owner?

        I'm betting that it would just go right back into the stores' economy as a slight surplus, or more likely would just go right into the pocket of whomever was notified of its' existence. Unless it had only been sitting there for a very short time and the person that left it could be identified w/some degree of certainty there would probably not be much point to the person being notified of trying to "do the right thing" anyway. Especially if this were the result of an anonymous cash transaction, which it more than likely would have been. This sounds a lot like money blowing in the wind to me; anyone can claim it, and they probably will.

        This doesn't mean that I would necessarily be the claimant.  But I would be more concerned about the possibility of cameras or possible set-ups than taking the supposed moral/ethical high road. If I were pretty darn certain that big brother wasn't watching, wasn't paying attention or just didn't care, I'd probably just pocket that little bonus as if it were my own and keep right on steppin' out the door without so much as a glance over my shoulder. The possibility of some kind of anonymous "guilt trip" poster like you described imagin, posted up somewhere in the store for all to see, would also dissuade me. But I've never heard of or encountered these at any place I've worked. Not that I don't believe you though. If you can vouch for their existence, that's just one more reason to second guess or deny the initial temptation.

        If I had been the unfortunate fool in this situation though (and I'm sure I have been), the last thing I would expect would be a phone call from a store manager a few days later saying "hey brad, you remember all that cash you left sitting in the registers payout the other day? Well, we've got it right here waiting for you. Boy, you sure were hard to track down!"

        Yeah, I wouldn't be sitting around waiting for that phone call.

        ps: Just took a look at that poll. Boy, we sure do have a lot of really honest degenerate gamblers around here!  ;)


        Very true where i worked at, it was posted, and time again when the person came in he was labeled as the man/woman who took the money. And some of the times the money was taken so quickly, the person who left it to begin with would only step out the door turn around to come back realizing the they didn't recieve their change or cashback it was gone, they would demand to find out who took it knowing we had cameras. People do come back.

        As far as the money not being returned to the rightful owner.. well let's see i guess it could make up for all the people we seen grabbing bananas, grapes, strawberries, cherries, opening cookies, chips, the loose candy, the ice creams parents would give their children, the make-up teenagers took, the meats the hungry and deperate shoved down their pants, the food cooked and then taken from the deli walking right out the door without paying, the sodas time and time again people have filled and then refilled, the grocery carts that were banged up due to people not returning them, or taking them off the lot to use as their own cart.. etc etc etc.. much more can be said..

        The thing about it is, to begin with the money was not mine PERIOD. Who, where and what it goes to as to me NOT taking it is not my concern. There are alot of honest people.

        Like i said if it wasn't blowing in the wind, or laying on the ground without a possibilty of who's it might be.. im fine with that fate, but if i take money that does not belong to me, i KNOW it doesn't.. that kind of a fate i don't want following me around

        Im adding to this, when a person left money as an employee we would stick it into the machine and time date it, if a person came back to claim it, it can be checked and verified even if it was days later, unfortunetly IF it was taken by a customer, then it was their loss for leaving it, the pictures that were posted were "reputative" persons, meaning they did other things in the store as well. Making us aware to keep an eye out.
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        We have one store with self check out and the video suveillance is incredible. 
        So, after I turned in the money, they would try to locate the person who left it there, but looking at the cameras.  Perhaps, they wouldn't figure it out.  Oh well.

        Even without the cameras, I would turn the money in.  I don't care what someone else's concience does, but mine doesn't allow me to take it.

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        I was walking through a casino last year, not doing great but holding my own.  On the floor was a $100 bill.  I stopped, looked around for at least a minute, and noone was looking for it, noone was searching their pockets or wallets, or walking back quickly in a panic.  So, I quickly scooped it up and stuck it in my pocket.  I felt like a thief even though I didn't technically do anything wrong.  I also didn't win a cent after that.  I don't know what I would do differently if it happened again, I mean this is a casino.  But I may not even pick it up next time at all.
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        toodleedoo wrote:

        I was walking through a casino last year, not doing great but holding my own.  On the floor was a $100 bill.  I stopped, looked around for at least a minute, and noone was looking for it, noone was searching their pockets or wallets, or walking back quickly in a panic.  So, I quickly scooped it up and stuck it in my pocket.  I felt like a thief even though I didn't technically do anything wrong.  I also didn't win a cent after that.  I don't know what I would do differently if it happened again, I mean this is a casino.  But I may not even pick it up next time at all.


        Toodle i have had that happen to me before not once but twice with a hundred, no one around.. and YES i felt funny to, but what i did was.. i walked up to a security guard and asked.. if i found a hundred dollar bill on the ground what should i do.. he said, if you found it on the ground its yours, just like if you found a dime, you can give it to me if you want to, but i guarantee, we will never know who's it is, or who (person to give it to).. it's yours.. this was the most honest answer a security guard can give me.. we did get into a conversation about it, he made me not feel bad and just be on my way.. you and i know thats not policy lol

        Theres really no way to find out who the owner is and this i call fate! You have no idea where it came from, You can't hold up a hundred dollar bill and say.. "hey who dropped this?"
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        I will say this too, Here in Vegas, if you find money in the machines or credits and take them they can have you arrested, they can have you sited for trespassing, they can ban you from ever coming into their casino, or they can throw you out, or determine you are a tourist and do nothing, if money is left in the machines it is their money and you are taking it, they will call it stealing, this i learned my experience working i casinos, it's up to them what they want to do.. BUT if you do find it on the floor.. it is yours, as long as it's not in the machines or coins drops or buckets.
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        That's what I meant when I said:
        I'll do what's right and leave feeling good
        whatever seems right at the time. 

        If it doesn't feel right-like some old lady or someone with a bunch of kids was ahead of me in line, I wouldn't do it.  If I saw someone rushing back in looking for or asking about their money, I wouldn't do it, or if I already had, I'd find out if they were in the line I had been in and give it back.

        But if there wasn't anyone but me there, I'd thank God for the "windfall" just as if I found it outside somewhere on the ground blowing in the wind.  I would probably feel a little bad about it but would rationalize it in my head.  Maybe someone left it there on purpose for someone who might need it.  Not likely, but that would be cool...
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        I'd just be afraid of two things: how ashamed I'd be if I did that and got caught on the shop's surveillance camera, and what a bad karma that'd bring upon me. Generally, I'm too empathic to take anything that someone else may depend on. Hell, I found a $20 bill on a bus station a couple of years ago (and in my country at that time this was not a sum to just walk by), and I started turning around to see if I can find a person who lost them. I figured they may need the money more than I do.
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        i would turn it in.I have done it before with a wallet i found when my oldest son and i was doing our fitness walk i have to always remember that in everything i do i have a pair of small eyes watching.i like lips would be scared to keep it at a store for fear of the camaras catching me im a wuss lol but a jail free one lol

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