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        I don't know if you will have seen the London riots on your TV screens but they appear to be getting way out of hand.

        It all started when a policeman shot a young man whilst in the back of a taxi after reports that he was carrying a gun.  They have made no statement about the incident and since the shooting, people took to the streets to get answers.  No answers have been forthcoming and what was a fairly calm "protest", has turned into violent and dangerous rioting.  Police have been hurt, locals have been hurt, shops, businesses and houses burnt to the ground. 

        16,000 police will take to the streets tonight after reinforcements have been sent to London from neighbouring counties.  All police officers leave has been cancelled in London and Parliament are reconvening due to this terrible rioting.

        This country is on the brink of a very serious depression.  Food prices have soared, utility bills have increased dramatically, car insurance has gone through the roof and those that are working, have had their pay frozen for at least 2 years.  It's getting to the point where people are having to choose between food or heat.  The job situation is also dire. 

        I'm not sure where I'm going with this post but throw all those things in the pot and you get yourself unrest and anger. 

        I just can't see an end to this right now and I wonder how they will stop this as rioting is spreading to other cities too.

        Have you seen it on the TV?  What are your thoughts about all this?

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        Yes blue it's been on our news since yesterday and it does seem to be intensifying...how sad.I'm afraid it might spread because of the reasons listed above.People everywhere seem to be fed up but their anger and the way they are handling it is unfortunately not going to solve things for anyone.Blue,do you live close to London??
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        Fortunately, no Rosebud but my fear is that as this is spreading across the country and I do live in a city, I wonder how long it will be before it hits here.

        The sad thing is that it has turned into mindless violence and looting which won't solve anything.

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        Let's hope that the police can contain it.I'm all for peaceful demonstrations but this seems to be anything but that.I can understand the anger about the economy,no jobs and just the general mess we are all in right now but there has to be a better way to bring change.My thoughts are with you blue!!
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        It's on the front page when I turn on my computer.

        I had no idea it stemmed from a young man being shot while in the back of a taxi. Reminds me of the LA riots after the Rodney King verdict.

        Mayhem, fires, destruction, deaths...nothing positive comes from these actions.  Once the mob mentality starts, it's hard to get it under control.
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        So true gabby and thank you Rosebud.

        I've just heard that they have closed one of the main shopping areas in our City centre.  Makes me wonder if the police have had a tip-off or they are just being very careful.

        I feel for the innocents who have lost their homes, their businesses and their lives.  I understand that another man has been shot in one of the London suburbs.  I should add that the British police do not carry armour as a matter of course and they will only arm themselves in exceptional circumstances.

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        The photo's are horrible.  Such destruction.

        I hope things don't progress to your area, Blue. 

        Stay safe!
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        i was just about to make a thread about these riots, these riots are totally outrageous, but being in the uk, it is scary....

        no one knows how and when it will end, and how to deal with it, the police are really stuck trying to get more officers they even trying to get retired officers and volenteers to help the police, but there is no motive as such, the motives are merely speculations, and until we get a proper motive for these riots we cant really deal with them as such, and yes its true what gabby said, once the mob mentality sets in it is very hard to solve it, because peer presure and such and its crazy, people dying its very sad... i hope soon they end... i wont give my personal views about what i believe could be the motive, because the cuts the conservatives are doing, is not yet confirmed to be the main motive more information needs to be found out for the motive to be found out....

        and yes these riots did stem from the death of a guy by police, but there has now been another death by police too yesterday the same way shot....

        so crazyness

        stay safe everyone

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        Having lived through the Rodney King Riots in LA, they are very scary.
        I remember people used to warn me not to tell anyone what my nationality was...hah hah.
        People were setting apartments on fire across the street from where I lived...why burn innocent peoples' homes?
        LAPD stopped going out of their stations, they just built a barricade around themselves and forgot about everybody else.
        People were taking turns watching from the roof of our condo building, with rifles.
        Others were protecting their homes/stores with rifles and shooting anyone who came near.
        There riots aren't so much about the police shooting a man, I feel, it is the economic strain taking it's toll on more than 50% of the population.
        It doesn't take much for a riot to start,in LA it was 12 people smashing cars and pulling people out at one intersection and you can Google Reginald Denny.
        IMHO, the police need to find those that are purposely harming others, assault or arson, and shoot them; once others see the police aren't screwing around, they'll quiet down.
        I do see the irony of shooting these people when, some say, the riots started from police shooting.
        Of course, people protesting Kelly Thomas' death, being beaten to death by Fullerton PD, but I doubt it will end in a riot.

        UK Riot Map - http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/interactive/2011/aug/09/uk-riots-incident-map
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        That must have been really scary Nan.  How did you cope with it at the time?  It's not like you can stay away from it when it is on your doorstep.

        I think they have lost sight of what the original protest was about in London and now it's just violence/looting for the sake of it and that is why it's spreading to other large cities.

        Thanks for the map link Nan.

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        Sorry, London, this is the end result of what happens when a nation borrows too much, spends too much, creates a welfare state and entitlements, and taxes too much.

        This will happen in the USA soon...just watch.  People need to kick their addiction to government. 
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        nan,

        I don't need to google Mr. Denny. I can still see him being yanked from his trunk.  It's an image that will be with me forever.  That and a man being spray painted and urinated on as he lie helpless on the ground.  Sick.  Evil.

        I can't imagine what you experienced during the LA riots. 

        Doc, You're right.  Too many people are lazy, self entitled blood suckers who think it's the government (our) job to support them and their families.
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        It was horrible Gabby, I remember watching the news and seeing this poor guy being beaten with a fire extinguisher and them breaking a cement block over his head.
        He went through six months of facial reconstructive surgery and has seizures and has severe parkinsons.
        He was interviewed just last year and he couldn't finish the interview because he stuttered so bad.
        Granted, that is just one person in that event; there were several people who were killed and raped.
        You could hear the gunshots all day and all night, I didn't leave the house for almost 5 days.
        I feel for the people of England as the police were just like LAPD, slow to respond and they didn't call in the military until almost the 5th day.
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        Blue,

        It's deplorable and sorry to say i have not heard of the recent troubles. I feel your emotions through every word you wrote and completely understand. It's extremely painful to see your country that you love so much start to decay.

        It has become a world epidemic and a scary one at that. I don't know what the answer is but all i can say is tell yourself this too shall pass. I have been saying this for quite awhile now myself.

        Having the privilege to recently visit your country i have soft spot for it now. I think what makes me more sad is not so much what is happening to your country but what it is doing to the  people of that great land.

        Especially for people like you and the stress it causes. And if i could i'd give you a big hug right now. I truly get your worry and concern.........

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        It is so sad, and there are those who want to protest peacefully and then there are those who want only violence and an excuse to rob and vandalize.  I think the mob mentality is a very dangerous thing.

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