Swine flu.....is it overated?

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        Hi Members,

        The onset of the Swine flu brought mass hysteria across the world. I for one was caught up in all the media hype. I had been planning a trip to Mexico for a wedding in June. News coverage warned not to travel there. Towns shut down and the fear was instilled in us all. As a result i canceled the trip.

        My question is.......why all the hype on Swine flu. Throughout history there has always been a flu bug. Some Doctors claim this is overrated. All flu bugs have caused deaths. Why is this one so different?

        Is this flu really no different then any other flu. Or is it there cause for alarm.

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        Unless your kid or loved one died, YES, it is hysteria.  Each year 30,000 - 40,000 people die of seasonal flu.  Yet, we don't seem to be upset over that.  Again, the media fans the flames!

        But, this does reveal how impotent the US government is in getting flu shots out.  Had this been a REAL bad flu (a la 1918 brand) we'd be in trouble.
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        There's also some scary things about the vaccine too. Many doctors (Check youtube) say the vaccine is "almost" as bad as the flu. That's something to consider.

        Plus , how many yearly die of car crashes?

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        I was concerned in the beginning like most everyone else, but now I feel it is over rated.
        People are so freaked out about it, if their kid has so much as the sniffles they rush them to the emergency room and are convonced the have the swine flu. It makes emergency rooms over crowded and it becomes very hard to treat the truely sick.

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        I honestly don't think that H1n1 is overated.  I understand the statistics, and know that more people die of the seasonal flu, but people don't realize just how serious and dangerous this virus is, unlike the seasonal flu, that kills the elderly, young children, or those with weakened immune systems, the H1N1 has potential to kill anyone, no matter your age, or health conditions.  I waited in lines two different days, hoping and praying to get my 3 year old daughter vacinated, and finally did.  I can not explain in words just how relieved I am.
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        Misty, this is from the CDC which found some interesting connections with Swine flu and I think we'd all do better to read it then make claims of what Swine Flu can or will do.

        ATLANTA (AP) -- About one in 13 U.S. swine flu deaths have been children and most of the kids have been of school age, the federal government said Thursday in its first study of the new flu's youngest victims.

        More than 40 U.S. children have died from the virus since it was first identified in this country in April. The report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention takes a comprehensive look at the first 36 deaths, and found some important differences in the pediatric death toll from swine flu as compared to seasonal flu:

        -- Normally, half or more of the children who die from flu are age 4 and younger. But more than 80 percent of the kids who died with swine flu were 5 or older.
        -- Almost two-thirds of the children who died with swine flu had epilepsy, cerebral palsy or other neurodevelopmental conditions. In a previous flu season, only a third of pediatric deaths had those conditions.
        -- Bacterial co-infections were a big danger, and were blamed in most of the deaths of otherwise healthy children. Co-infections usually occur when a patient, weakened by a virus, then gets hit by a bacterial bug.

        The CDC released the report through one of its publications, Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

        Swine flu has caused more than 1 million illnesses in the United States, the CDC estimates. More than 550 deaths and 8,800 hospitalizations have been reported to date.

        It's hard to say whether children have accounted for a higher proportion of deaths from swine flu than they normally do from seasonal flu, though CDC officials say that seems to be true. The CDC doesn't monitor seasonal flu deaths as closely as it does swine flu, and it has no comprehensive count of annual seasonal flu deaths to enable such a comparison.

        The new report focuses on lab-confirmed swine flu deaths reported through Aug. 8. The CDC hasn't been able to do as complete an analysis of cases that have come in since then, said Dr. Cynthia Moore, a CDC medical officer who was one of the study's co-authors.

        Through Aug. 8, there were 477 total swine flu deaths, including 36 in children.

        Only about 20 percent of those children were age 4 or younger.

        That's unusual: Often 50 percent or more of seasonal flu deaths are in infants and toddlers, who have less mature immune systems and smaller air passages and are generally in more danger from respiratory infections.

        "There's a lot of school-aged children" in the death count, said Dr. Beth Bell, a CDC epidemiologist who is a leader in the agency's swine flu response efforts.

        It's not clear why such a large percentage of the swine flu pediatric deaths are in kids aged 5 and older. It simply may be because older children were more likely to encounter the virus -- at schools, summer camps -- than very young children who spend more time at home, Bell said.

        The initial numbers in the report are small and the CDC will need to look at more reports to see if the trends hold up, CDC officials said.

        Two-thirds of the children who died had high-risk medical conditions. Nearly all of them had an illness related to the nervous system, including mental retardation, cerebral palsy and epilepsy and other seizure disorders.

        Years ago experts recognized that children with neurodevelopmental conditions are at  higher risk of serious complications from the flu. But the proportion of swine flu victims with that kind of underlying condition was swine flu percentages are high compared to a previous flu season, CDC officials said.

        It's not clear how significant that finding is, because many of the children had other medical problems that had weakened their bodies, CDC officials said.

        Of the children who were healthy before they got swine flu, many were probably killed by a one-two punch of swine flu working with a bacterial co-infection, CDC officials said.

        Bacterial co-infections have been an increasingly noticed danger since the government started tracking pediatric flu deaths in 2004.

        So their occurrence with swine flu was not a surprise, but emphasized the needs for parents and doctors to be alert to the danger and give the child antibiotics when appropriate, CDC officials said.

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        hype imo, just hype. i hadent decided for to take it or not, i was with some of the ppl i work with to take the shot (since they are concidered risk zone) and i though while i was there i take it to. i got sick as F* the day after, not the fever as most of them who get sideffects, i got the worst headache, felt like my head was splittin apart, i had that for 3 days, felt better, then i got fever... so, been home from work for one week now.

        hype. imo.
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        Ohhhhhhhh noooooo not Mondo sick!!! I am so sorry to hear that. Makes ya wonder if its worth having it.

        I hope you feel better soon and miss ya at the forum!!


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