WIKILEAKS!

Anybody here reading them? What are your thoughts?

My thoughts.  Never send an email or issue a memo!  They will come back to haunt you in a high-tech/ cyber world.

I haven't read any of the leaked documents (and don't really care to), but I'm absolutely fascinated by the principles & the mechanics of this situation, and am following the stories daily.

I really don't know where I am on the whole situation, but I think I'm leaning towards the "Freedom of Information" side.  Regardless of where my opinion or the story ends up, this guy has some serious balls to do this, and I admire that.

I haven't read them either, but I like the fact that they want Hilary to resign. 

He is allegedly a gay man, and some say he did it because of the don't ask don't tell issue.
Wikileaks = a gay man in "an awkward place".
Wikileaks = a gay man in "an awkward place".

Read her article here.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=40325

A little snippet of the article is below.
The two biggest stories this week are WikiLeaks' continued publication of classified government documents, which did untold damage to America's national security interests, and the Democrats' fanatical determination to repeal "don't ask, don't tell" and allow gays to serve openly in the military.

The mole who allegedly gave WikiLeaks the mountains of secret documents is Pfc. Bradley Manning, Army intelligence analyst and angry gay. ...

We've heard 1 billion times about the Army translator who just wanted to serve his country, but was cashiered because of whom he loved. I'll see your Army translator and raise you one Bradley Manning.

According to Bradley's online chats, he was in "an awkward place" both "emotionally and psychologically." So in a snit, he betrayed his country by orchestrating the greatest leak of classified intelligence in U.S. history. ...

Three cheers for the gay man!  All of us are in an awkward place if we have to hide anything from the government.  But they can hide everything all the time.  Our government should man up.  He didn't betray the citizens of his country. 

I've got to remember I'm not supposed to get into political arguments.  I know I'm out in left field and have nothing at all to back up my opinions.  I agree with the doc and his comment about watching what you put out there in cyberspace.  Please don't google me!!!!

I was talking about Julian Assange when I said he had balls for doing this.

nothing like misquoting...
wikileaks=a gay man in an awkward place???
what is that...comprehension problem much?

wikileaks is a news media that publishes and comments on leaked documents alleging government and corporate misconduct.

that particular man may have been a gay man who was in an "awkward place "  "emotionally and psychologically"...and this is what lead him to betray his country by leaking classified information.

this is only one instance in a looooooooooooong line of betrayals of leaking of intelligence.

wikileaks certainly does not = a gay man in an awkward place, but equals many instances of betrayal to our country and other corporate players where intelligence has been compromised.

Maybe i have been working too hard and have not been into the world lately.. but what the heck is a "wikileak".. it sounds like something weird... like something a man would say with a bidness problem.. erm..

:-\

Oh forgive me, thank you.... and hello

Never heard of it til now, i have been working and have not been able to read what has been going on.. i will now though

Imagination, don't feel left out.  But anything with Wiki in it is an internet source...wikipedia, for example- an encyclopedia where you can go in and make changes or add something.  Like I added George Morgan, my grandpa...

The big news story is this guy who created wikileaks and the leaks he got have the whole political world in an uproar because of some of the content-like the state department telling our UN folks to collect espionage-like data about foreign diplomats, etc.  Just turn on CNN or MSN or FoxNews for about 30 minutes and you'll know as much as the rest of us.

That is very serious stuff, but it is almost as what i quoted without any knowledge as being.. "a man with a bidness problem" lmao.. and i agree watch what you do and say in the cyber world.. eyes are everywhere even in the least expected places.. maybe lurking in your bathroom window while you are sitting with your laptop doing what you do. Cockroaches and spidars can even be equipted with microphones and tiny cameras!

Spilling the beans and posting private docs is serious, the man must be made of iron or something...

No Iron there is a warrant for his arrest. A new warrant of arrest was issued to Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks website, to face potential accusations of molestation and rape.

The 39-year-old  who was believed to be hiding in Britain, can be transferred to Sweden as early as this day. WikiLeaks humiliated the government of the United States this week by issuing thousands of the U.S. diplomatic cables, which include frank judgments of world leaders.

In addition, WikiLeaks, a whistle blowing site, is back online with a new Swiss address this morning, after the American organization for service provider pulled the connection on the website of WikiLeaks yesterday. The site was shut down for a short time last night after its provider of domain name system (DNS) pulled the address of WikiLeaks over concerns about the denial of service attacks.

Furthermore, it is not clear who was at the back of the attacks but the EveryDNS.net said that they threatened access to nearly half a million of other websites. The web host of WikiLeaks in the United States has also pulled the connection.

Its concerns were not spying, but intellectual property law. On the other hand, Amazon Web Services (AWS) expelled WikiLeaks from the servers of the company. AWS also said in a statement that it violated its terms of service by issuing content it does not really owned.

Moreover, AWS also said that it is obvious that WikiLeaks does not own the diplomatic cables or else control all the privileges to the classified content. Also AWS added that it is not convincing that the unusual volume of 255,000 classified documents that WikiLeaks is issuing can have been cautiously edited in such a way as to make sure that they were not putting not guilty individuals in danger.

When I first heard about Wikileaks..a little bit here and there on the news...I thought..omg..what a scumbag for betraying our country like that.

Then I started to read on  non-censored sites (which are being disabled wherever the government uses their control and they are working overtime tonight) and started to realize how much bs we are being fed on a daily basis.

I feel now that he is not hurting anybody and the people that are hunting him are afraid of what may come out in the open about their scrupulous behavior. I know the news tells us that this harms innocent people, children, soldiers and blah blah blah. That is the bs we are fed every time our government needs to calm us down while taking another little piece of our freedom.


He only released about 0.2% so far and is already hunted like an animal.

I hope he gets the chance to release everything he has. I can't wait to see the files on the big banks, 9/11, Cheney and hope that some of the greedy culprits in Senate and House will have to step down.

This supposed to be the land of the free. Where are we now? The government only lets us hear the news that they want us to hear, we are monitored every step we make, we are not allowed to spend our money where we want.

I wish that everybody before commenting here would read some of the releases, I think it would open some eyes.

Here's a good article about Julian, with some background info.  It was published by AP just this evening..

http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20101204/D9JT2U480.html

I just wanted to post a link to a site that was not opinionated or censored but all the  sites are down  again :'(

Somebody is working overtime tonight.

His attorney was trying to contact the Swedish courts and find out about more about the charges against him.  The big charge is....he had sex without a condom    OMG..he should be hanged for that and in Sweden it is a crime..lol

Just think..what will get people to turn against a person? It always will be rape..what a good reason to hunt some one that is revealing some truth.

Facebook is still open and has over 700.000 members on Wikileaks page. Don't know how much longer but I think it will get eventually down to only news that will have everybody hate him.

yeah imag...it's worse than you know.
check out some of the places things get hidden:

www.wholesalespycams.com

I have heard of this, and am still not sure either way.

I disagree with the DNS provider yanking their domain and also disagree with PP for yanking their only source of funding. Seems someone high up in the Gov is pulling everystring to shut this down.

Yes, releasing the cables about the diplomats take of certian leaders "May" be harmful, but frankly, they did it to themselves allowing such info to be accessed and compromised.

I will wait and see what develops..

If wikileaks can "cautiously be edited" or even be edited at all.. who is to say what has or is manipulated, maybe we are getting all, some or none of what the truth is?

ahhhhh...there's the rub.

I'm all 4 'Freedom of Information,' TO A POINT.  When it puts matters of national security in jeopardy, however, I draw the line.  I may b in the minority, but the reality is there ARE some things of a sensitive nature that should NOT b available 4 world-wide consumption.

I don't see them showing us how to make an A-bomb, H-bomb, or F-bomb for that matter.  Not handing out the launch code sequence.  Not (that I know of) leaking names of spies, as SOMEONE did wink wink.  Not disclosing we are attacking anyone.  Just showing the world what damn liars the State Dept and others are.  Sorry if they are sensitive about that. 

Here is a good read.



http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/12/04/killing-the-messenger-corporate-media-and-politicians-v-julian-assange-and-wikileaks/

Something i realised was rather funny!
Azabijan cable.. I showed they were worried about wepons or uranium being transported through oil companies.lol
This has been going on for ages. You all know the huge metal containers for transport on the cargo ship. Well they go to the country full and guess what they don' always come back empty. They are never checked or weighed as they are signed as empty.

Security is so tight at airports you cant even say bom? but you can easily transport all the bits you like.
Crazy stuff.

New news on wikileaks- they've made an "insurance" file with all kinds of gosh-darn-awful even worse leaks and files they haven't released but that would be just as or more damaging than what they leaked the other day.  If things progress, they'll release the password so everyone can open the insurance file.  They created this file several months back, and so far around 10,000 people have the file downloaded and are hoping they don't have to get the password, and hoping that they do get the password. 

A statement from the White House:  Such disclosures put at risk our diplomats, intelligence professionals, and people around the world who come to the US for assistance in promoting democracy and open government. By releasing stolen and classified documents, WikiLeaks has put at risk not only the cause of human rights but also the lives and work of these individuals.”


I tend 2 agree.

I've violated my self-imposed rule not 2 discuss politics so I'm gonna stop now...

what did you expect the White House to say?  Thanks for making a more open and honest world to live in?  Why don't they fix the leakability.  Who's in charge of guarding that information?  They should be fired from their job!

I saw so much WRONG in the University I used to work for.  And I questioned it, but didn't "leak" it to anyone but the proper University officials.  They are still there.  I'm not.  It's the way of the world,and it is just wrong.  The government is just as bad as those casinos who demand you follow the rules, but can change them at any time without notice and don't follow them themselves.  I wish they'd all just be honest and deal with things/people like they expect or want things/people to deal with them.

What I think is kind of funny is that if the government would have just said...nonsense!!!..and moved on, most people would still think like tinmanfan and this whole thing would have washed away like everything else.

With every action that is taken to bring him down, more and more people start reading and are getting curious as to why all the action. What are they trying to hide?

Facebook has now almost 800.000 followers and growing by the minute and that is only one site. I don't get the feeling that people are looking to find information on how to build a bomb or who are we invading next. It is more like finding answers to questions we have had for a long time.

This is o funny..I can't stop laughing.

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To: Hillary Clinton <secretary@state.gov> Subject: Re: spies like us
First priority, cease all cables from embassies until further notice. Second, make amends to UN. Tell them we never intended for our diplomats to snoop. Say we just wanted to get hold of their frequent flyer numbers so that – this is off the top of my head – we could add more miles to their accounts, as a gift, but anonymously, so it's not a bribe. Say it's something we do every Christmas. Lastly, promise Ban Ki Moon we'll never spy on him again, and then find out from our spies whether he buys it. We can weather this. Keep me posted, with full deniability. B

To: John Boehner <john.boehner@mail.house.gov Subject: Russian nuclear treaty
I'm glad we're working together on this thing at last. As we've all learned this week, Russia is basically a dysfunctional kleptocracy controlled by the mafia and led by a psychopath hellbent on enriching himself at the expense of world stability. We need to nail them to some kind of promise while they're still in a position to keep it. This is bigger than politics. America needs us, John. Warmly, Barack.

To: Vladimir Putin <bigman@premmier.gov.ru Subject: warning
Vlad – any minute now your intel people are going to flag up an email from me to Boehner. Ignore it – it's just political stuff. He's scared stiff, and I want to keep it that way. Best, Barack.

To: Louis Susman <ambassador.london@state.gov> Subject: Re: UK going to totally lose world cup bid, btw . . .
Louis – while I appreciate that the normal channels have been compromised, I don't think email is the best way to send stuff like this. We'll sort something else out. In the meantime, if you're sure about it, I'll go $500 on the World Cup venue for 2018, and $200 for 2022 (Qatar? Really? Isn't it, like, the size of Connecticut?). Are you OK placing the bets for me? Michelle hates this kind of thing. B

Are they effin serious?  Students in college who view Wikileaks will seriously hurt their chances of ever having a government job!  Anyone working for the government, even if you already have security clearance to view the contents, will be breaking the law if they view Wikileaks on their home or work computers?  WTF. America?  I'll sit here and wait for you to arrest me for posting about it, I guess!  Is there somewhere on this planet to go to have rights to freedom of speech, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?  We are now a nation of criminals only, except for our government, of course.  How are they going to afford putting all of us in jail and feeding, clothing, and sheltering us all?