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  • After playing for 20 years on MG and RTG SLOTS

     

    Something puzzle me, It's STRANGE Thing that I Would like to point out.

     

    #1 FREE SPINS : Went they offers free spins, 99% of the time we end up with 5.00$ or less

    I simply believe that UNDER Our account number, they set MAX WIN.

    #2 You're on a dead run, playing COLD SLOTS, You get to support and complain

    You return to same slots and WOW MAGICTLY You get Good win, so for example you deposit 10$ just to get some trill, you will nothing you get to chat , return with your balance, and you start to HIT AMAZING Win, thing you never see usely, but as soon as you reach 5% or 10% of your deposit then the slots get COLD AS ICE , You CAN'T What ever what u do, increase you bet and CONTINUE on a winning stake.

    IT SEEM and it's so obvious that UNDER YOUR ACCOUNT they set : MAX Win 5% Of deposit or something like that. ONLINE CASINO Had nothing to do with RANDOM, They program there software and the RNG then do what is was program to do.

    This parten happen to me so many time i Mean it's so obvious, 

    IF YOu ever win 500$ to 1000$ Then FORGET THE CASINO for month over month you wont be able to win crap.

    You will win BIG after you had deposit 500$ + Then to please customer they will SETUP some win, THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING, they do not tell the program  what to show, just how much it AS TO PAID.

    Don't u find strange that went you bet low, The slots wont give you any chance to hit few BIG WIN.

    #3 It's easy to see there program cause as soon as you reach there setup program you will see SLOTS ACT WEIRD, Like if you see Free spins figure, Well It will stop in the middle of the wheel and VOID AT ANY COST THESE FREE SPINS, The wheel wont turn normally, but wil turn radicatly and will STOP, FREEZE, SKIP any big win or Free spins.

    I See SAME PROGRAM, Same parten on Any slots Facebook as well. BUT Not at LAND CASINO where the slots will turn and turn the same WAY no matter of she's due to hit, online Went you start to get screw you will see starnge behaver in the way slots and wheel turn, it's so Frustrating, so Ridiculous to be had like this.

    RANDOM Not REALLY, Random will mean that went I got 1,00$ Instead of showing me in Summer moolah 777*7 , you will see 77777, Imagine playing 0.09 see 777( orange)7 , if she hit 77777 would had won a ridiculus 7.50$ but since it's program NOT TO GIVE IT, you get screw over and over.

    Only players that deposit 1,000$ BET 100$ You see of the top BIG WIN PLAYERS, us that bet 20$ 50$ 100$ just calculate your deposit let say over time you deposit 500$ wel you will be due to win 200$ went you reach 200$ You will see how screw we been set, Slots start to turn strangely, freeze, skip

    AND NO IT'S NOT MY INTERNET as they will always say,it's how the program is made, badly I can say, we see these cheats and we've got no chance to bust it and say " THIS IS MY DAY " 

    Who can show us in MEGA MOOLAG SUMMER A LINE WITH 77777 ? After 20 yrs playing this slots I NEVER EVER SEE THIS LINE. I Mean Random I would deposit 20$ bet 0.90 and hit 77777 and win 75$ but it never happen WHY ? BECAUSE IT'S PROGRAM.

    No wonder they give free spins like free candy on halloween BECAUSE THEY CAN PROGRAM MAX WIN. 

    They other day I receive 50 free spins at GAMES OF THRONES, Well I win a ridiculous 0.98c 

    Take 1$ AND STFU simple as that.

    Picture include will show you my win but as soon as I reach 50$ everything fall apart, no matter what slots I pic, It goes down down down, NO CHANCE what so ever to actually win 200$ with 10$ Like any LAND casino , where it's possible. ONLINE LOL It's getting so program and we all fall for it. 

    They control WHAT GOES OUT so they can't manage there budget. 

    OH of course from time to time you will win Jackpot, Sure some may had win big for sure.

    BUT WHO ON GOLD FACTORY DID WIN " You could win up to 520,000 coins " WHO ACTUALLY WIN THIS ? Been playing sometime for FUN for day and day's and lol what a joke, Sure 1/1.000,000,000,000,000,000,000 one GUY ON IS MOBILE WOULD SEE 520,000 coins if he play 1,000$ SPINS.

     

    THINK Twice now before deposit, some play more with there software, other less but IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THEY DO SETUP MAX WIN. O.B.V.I.O.U.S we're not dumb

    ( Pls forgive my bad eng sentence i'm french I did my best )

  • Sadly i agree with the poster. Can't comment on MG slots (USA restricted) but the RTG slots are exactly like that struggle.

  • Do you guys go to land based casinos?  I do and it is the same there.  Slots are programmed to make the casino winners.  That is how gambling works.  Once in a while you get lucky and have a big win.  But most times the casino is the big winner.  How do you think they build the beautiful casinos and lavish hotels?  Think about it.  Gambling should be for entertainment like paying for a movie.

     

  • Yes medtrans i have went out of town to play at the casinos and i have had a blast. My health doesnt allow me to travel much. I went to the new casino in Murphy N,C. about two months ago. I did win more then i came with and i ate good. It has been proven that some casinos are rogue and even blacklisted online. Big remembarable case in point Casino Titan group, Rushmore group. Not all casinos are like that online so i hope i am playing at the few good ones. I cut the rest off of my list. Even some forums post that livin g in the USA is like the wild west, cowboy land. We in the USA take the risk of getting screwed way more then others do. We post here and other forums hoping some one can help. If the casino still refuses, there is no where to turn. The only thing i can do in the meantime is hope for regulations and play at my 3 online casinos.  Gambling is for entertainment but its not good entertainment to win and don't get it.  Play slots you know something is amist  - Bovada. I wish you luck where ever you play med my old friend. We can agree to disagree lol kisskissed

  • well a landline casino cost more to build ,.,.have hundreds of workersl;l;high operating cost   etc etc  and they pay instantlyand never change the terms or comps  online casinos well they should pay out more ,,more comps their costs are a LOT lower  etc etc and they chage you money to withdraw your own money

  • rena35 wrote:

    Sadly i agree with the poster. Can't comment on MG slots (USA restricted) but the RTG slots are exactly like that struggle.

    YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT RTG CASINOS they dont pay like they used to and more charges to withdraw  took pay my card away./ comp points are even harder to many things to list on how they screw the players

  • Unfortunately, what you said is true..mainly slotland and winaday games..But after explaining methods of cheating you have to give us advices or solutions to win. cool

  • Gambling online or landbased was never meant for the gambler to win. The slots are set for the casino to win:) I have to say though I do get a bit miffed when the slots are extremely tight. Can't help feeling that way. I still enjoy being able to cashout now and again.

  • Is it me or it seem that I can see there PROGRAM in my face.

     

    You get to SUPPORT complain about bet high, get screw, you complain about the payout etc...

    They give you free chips, 10$ 20$ But I think it's program that THIS 20$ would give a max win if you make the wager, meaning that they can put 100$ under your account then you make the wager, and as soon as the slots give you 100$ it start to drop, slots are colds as iced.

    Sometime I get bonus and make wager and win 500$ trying to bet high, change slots, try EVERYTHING possible you're dead fish.

    RANDOM OR PROGRAM To do so THEN THE RNG do is job accorly to the program.

    It's so OBVIOUS, The check how much we deposit, set max WE COULD win no matter what goes out. THE CONTROL EVERYTHING even the FREE SPINS if they gone pay.

    They don't do anything just set some OPTIONS and then the RNG work and do is JOB and let me tell you he does a pretty good job.

    IT'S not RANDOM 100% 

    My last big screw was went I try to win back some big win I had a chance to grab from free chips, anyway .....I hit 8 free spins at MONSTERS METEORS X 8 BET 1.00$

    This slots if you hit one single thing IT'S MULTIPLY x 8 WOW could easy , without any BIG win, could win 50$ to 100$ ...If I hit Big win could end up with much more.

     

    WELL I WIN A RIDICULOUS 0.00$ Yes none of the 8 spins paid and they tell me it's RANDOM ? Well the worse free spins we could get is 1 win out 10, 15,20

    But ZERO ? How cheap and tricky is that, I had 15$ left my cat was dead.

    That why you could play 12 month without hitting anything until you show up

    I've got Land slots here locate in bars, I can go there put 20$ hit 77777 and win 750$ + 5 free spins wild bet 2.50$ win up to 750$ agains.

    Have you notice how HARD IT'S to win went you bet low and had dollars left ?

    Did anyone one the planet see 77777 in SUMMER TIME MOOLAH ?

    play both real and practice and I Never see them any bet. 

    Anyway MG are more and more tricky, Yes we can win MegaMoolah but all those FAKE winner that win 100,000$ + except jackpot is a hoax I play practice and in order to win that much you have to bet 1200$ spins. deposit 10,000$ online casino ? 

    We rarely see screnshot of those winners., compare to RTG where it's easy to see.

  • I'll try to make this short: 

    First off O.P., if you really believe this is the case, i think it's time for a break perhaps.

    In that break you could try and read up on Random Numbers, Pseudo Random Number Generators and RTP.

    Also about the general programming in Slots and other various Casino games (much of which work in a similar manner)

    But, i can also point out one thing that may put things in perspective: if you realize that what medtrans said is correct:

    All Casino Games have a house edge, be it Online or Offline, and this very simply means that overall, in the lonbg run, the Casino will make a profit on it.

    From that you can deduce that the max Jackpots those Games have, will relatively be hit much less, then any low paying combination. That is simple math.

    It doesn't matter if you see this on your Free Spins, or with your own deposit, you will see it in both cases.

    The only thing that we Gamblers really need to worry about (presuming we play in the Accredited Casino's of course) is that we don't break T&C's, and that we don't spend more then we can spare. Then just don't expect to win, but be happy if you do...

    That's the only good way to gamble if you ask me...

    And, if you do it like that, i am sure you will win again somewhere in the near future, and then you may see things differently.

    But if you don't see this now, or after you read up, and then think about it a little bit, then a break is maybe the best thing for now.

     

    One last thing, there have been real cases of cheating software, but those cases almost always came to light, or will come to light: LCB for one is actively researching any Casino listed here, and also makes players aware of their findings.

    And providers like MG are not stupid, they are Giants! They are doing very well, and don't need any cheats whatsoever.

    Neither do Casinos..they will win in the long run, and if their starting budget is sufficent, and their approach playerfriendly, they will most likely end up with a succesfull business anyway :) 

    Also don't underestimate the amount of control that is undertaken before providing fair gaming certificates, licences and more...

  • SAME OLD RESPOND.

    I'm talking logic, I KNOW ABOUT THE RNG

    But what if they could under our account put a option " MAX WIN 100$ " 

    THEN THE RNG WORK, Don't you find odds that went we get free spins we NEVER WIN 100$ 1000$

    Most of the time 1,00$ to 5,00$

     

    I play slots for 30 years, It's easy to see pattern, Casino owner want to keep there players and I'M 100% SURE

    They do some stuff under our account.

    Regarless what you tell me I SEE LAND CASINO remove a slots that where rigged, The Symbols that give 80,000 coins was never in the program.

    Also went we see " YOU COULD WIN UP TO 550,000 $ How the heck we can do that ? 

    Betting 1,000$  spin HIT 5 WILDS , in the free spins x 5 , what are the odds in that ? 1,000,000,000,000,000,00,000 ?

    ALL I'm saying is that the RNG calculate our deposit, The in and out,  Calculate if he's gone give us something.That why I say it's not 100% Random, Even our OWN GOV had a lottery with " EXTRA Numbers "  a combination of 6 numbers, well they find out that all the first number and last number never match, like on a ticket you will never see the number 2, twice as first numbers, So the possibility reach billions they got SUE, Because they set the RNG ( How the ticket where print and the sequence of the number )

    So as my knowledge I'm sure they don't just sit on there desk and take the money, The add free spins , They,re not scare we will wait 1 Millions, cause the odds are so vaste and impossible to get the are safe.

    I study a lots about probability., getting a line 1 out 500,000 spins to win 7.50$ bet 0.09 is ridiculous 

    There's RANDOM fair and square and Random that are so rare it's amazing !

    SHOW ME 77777 in a row in SUMMER TIME MOOLAH any printscreen lol

     I Understand completely about it, but Software count too, Like Poker Star Wow what a shitty program, You make the tournament out of 6,000 you are in position 100 and then the RNG Start 9-2 7-2 4-8 j-2 k-3 4-9 Anyway you got the ideas.

    But maybe it's just a shitty program, the Casino owner had no control It's just RNG, Just find it very very very RUDE it never give a real random chance to players, You bet BIG you get screw, You hit free spins that don't pay, last time bet 4.50 15 free spins x 3 win a ridiculous 37$ , 

    Or she way until you reach 1.00$ min bet to give you those free spins that you chase at 0.90, all sorth of little cheat that doesn't seem honest and random, Don,t give pretent to show, Give them, I play Summer Time Moolah and the 77777 in a row are raree as 1,000,000,000,000 spins play for 25 years this slots practice and real and I NEVER SEE IT so the question is this...Does the RNG is set to one billions spins until you see 5 Wilds ? 

    Random over time I would see them, Just like those slots land in local Bar, Over time we do see 77777, Online see 5 in a row, BIG win , always come with a BONUS, Rarely with your own money

  • There's much to say, but just a few comments then:

    THEN THE RNG WORK, Don't you find odds that went we get free spins we NEVER WIN 100$ 1000$

    Just yesterday i won 100,- on a few Free Spins..and that sucked cause then i had a huge playthrough,as it wasn't a Casino that had Wager Free Free Spins, such as Guts or Rizk....Most of the times i hope for a win of around 5,- to 10,-, but i have hit 100,- from Free Spins a few times, and also, when i hit much less or just a few cents, then often i won a few hundred with that.

    But most of the times you indeed win nothing, just like when you play with your own money.

    Regarless what you tell me I SEE LAND CASINO remove a slots that where rigged, The Symbols that give 80,000 coins was never in the program.

    Like i said, there are instances where rigged software is found, sometimes it also just an innocent programming error..nevertheless, the established operators pretty much all stick to their fair Games: they don't need any cheats to be sure of a successful operation, they only need large volumes of players, and that they have.

    That why I say it's not 100% Random

    Your reasoning is somwhat flawed here..it's indeed not literally random, as there are a limited number of possibilities. This is to ensure the RTP runs according to expectations and underwhile meets the statutory minimum payout. Also, i have already told you to check out the meaning of Random and Pseudo Random, of which the latter is applied in most Casino Software.

    It is all Random, within the number of possibilities.

    Betting 1,000$ spin HIT 5 WILDS , in the free spins x 5 , what are the odds in that ? 1,000,000,000,000,000.000,000 ?

    The chances of hitting the 5 top symbols, no matter how high or low the number, is irrespective of your betsize.

    I also have hit my personal biggest MG win (a 4 Reel Wild Desire on Immortal Romance) on a much higher bet then i normally play..there have been a few more examples, meaning from personal experience i know these hits do happen. This does not mean it will happen to everyone. luck is always a factor! 

    And again, i would like to stress that it is important to realize, that those huge hits are indeed an exception - not the norm.

    Over time we do see 77777, Online see 5 in a row, BIG win , always come with a BONUS, Rarely with your own money

    Indeed, we do see those big wins on occasion, and there is one simple solution to avoid hitting them on a Bonus: just play without Bonuses! Do that in a Casino like Guts or Rizk, where once every now and then you'll get rewarded with wager free Free Spins, and then it doesn't matter what you hit:)

     

    If i am honest, you sound like you have had a bad run..and we all have those, believe me, although some have it harder then others..sometimes a break is good, to put things in perspective. However, if you really can't lose the idea you are being cheated, then the only sensible thing is to stop playing, and even go to the authorities..But i think your off the mark in this case:)

     

  • ANOTHER PROFF

     

    THOUSAND UPON THOUSAND OF PRINT SCREEN IN MEGA MOOLAH SUMMERTIME

    WHERE THE 77777 DOESN'T EXIST, After 20 years playing !!

     

    https://youtu.be/pl7zBStp2ec

  • Does it happen you get free spins and hit 1,000$ ?

    NEVER HAPPEN But it should since it's random.

    Does it happen to anyone went you got 1,00$ and hit 100$ ? NEVER

    Everything is setup, program sometime you get to support beg for free chips

    and magicly slots goes wild and you win 1,000$ Now don't tell me they didn't program max win to please players ?

    20$ for 1000$ Wow.....We win more went they grand us bonus, rather went we deposit, we win fews spins, get screws with Free spins that are so ridiculous, it make you rage.

    NOTHING ONLINE is 100% RANDOM LIKE REAL LAND CASINO.

  • Over time we do see 77777

     

    WHERE MEGAMOOLAH SUMMERTIME ? 

    Bro been playing this slots fro 20 yrs AND NEVER THEY HIT, I play REAL LAND and over time month not years we see them, online we always see 4, It's so ridiculous 

     

    SHOW ME PRINT SCREEN OF 77777 Will believe you 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl7zBStp2ec

    look for yourself 

  • What about this : 

    And it's after years playing any kind of slots on any kind of platorm

    You deposit 20$ let say, you play your favorite slots, some news and no matter what you do the program try all that he can to skip, freeze, disconnect you WHAT ever so you wont hit free spins.

    Month after month, different time, Still nothing.

    You get to Live Support they grand you some free chips 20$ 25$ etc

    You are happy you return to your slots and OH MAGICTLY Free spins, the slots start to pay like crazy, big win, free spins, features the party is on, But Since you've got a wager to do, most of the time after little time slots return to there COLD state, you end up losing it and loser these Free spins that you run for for month.

    I THINK Seriously that under our account there's this Options to open the valve on and off.

    And this partern didn't happen once or twice, BUT 99% of the time.

    I see a post from a someone playing MG casino for a years and didn't hit anything, These thing wont never happen on land.

    In order to win you've got to show that you're alive, magictly , the game play change, you will hit free spins, You will grow your bankrolls rarely with free cash you will hit nothing, I always manage to In years playing I can be honest to say that I did manage to make the wager and withdraw a respectable amount, but went I look all the reason why I had win I think they control what come in and what come out for small deposit players.

    And of course over thousand of years you will see " YOU COULD WIN UP TO 500,000 COINS ) yes 1 players out of 6 Billions maybe.

    No wonder they give so much free cash, free spins. In 99% you will win 5$ to 20$ 

    Anyway .....Hope it help players just want to say how I see this.

    Regards

    ( I'm french so forgive my bad english ) 

  • I am pretty sure you are dreaming after these five 7 :) leave a moment this slot , play elsewhere and maybe when you'll return to play , it comes , but do not await after it , chance is chance and no matter that is 20 years you play this slot , I know how it can be penible to never see them , there is some RTG where I never win something and never cashout after 10 years playing here ( not each day but 2/3 times a month ) and there is few RTG where same slots gave me beautiful wins ! I wanted to try this slot but I can't now , Frenches players are not allowed !!! what a pity

     

    but I hope for you one day you see these 77777

     

    good luck :)

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